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Question regarding the movie "Wall Street"
Posted on 12/22/10 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 12/22/10 at 8:44 pm
The newest one. Maybe I missed it, but how does one investment banking firm destroy another in a matter of a week? The company's stock went from $80/share to being bought out at $3/share. It was supposedly rumors that killed the stock. Is that possible?
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:18 pm to crimsonsaint
It's not exactly like the movie, but on September 1, 2008 Lehman Brothers was selling for $16/share. Two weeks later on September 15, it was selling for $.15/share. So..... 
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:23 pm to LSURussian
By forcing liquidity issues to the forefront, I guess.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:27 pm to LSURussian
So, another company killed Lehman Bros?
The film talked about KZI owning "toxic debt". What's the point in purchasing debt? Expecting a turn around?
The film talked about KZI owning "toxic debt". What's the point in purchasing debt? Expecting a turn around?
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:43 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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By forcing liquidity issues to the forefront, I guess.
Are there any banks, or investment firms, that are liquid? I tend to think all of em would have problems putting up the cash on demand.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:49 pm to LSURussian
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It's not exactly like the movie
Right. Basically some firms highly leverage themselves even more than most banks (which is a lot), figuring it's safe to do so. Sometimes they are right. When they aren't things collapse really fast.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 9:56 pm to foshizzle
Plus They know Micheal Douglas only has a few shovels left before his dirt nap so they had to make the takeover/failure fast.
Posted on 12/22/10 at 10:23 pm to crimsonsaint
Read this to see how it happens.
...and I agree with what Martini said.
...and I agree with what Martini said.
This post was edited on 12/22/10 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 12/23/10 at 6:40 am to crimsonsaint
quote:C'mon! Didn't you see It's a Wonderful Life? Jimmy Stewart explained all about a financial institution's liquidity in that movie.
Are there any banks, or investment firms, that are liquid? I tend to think all of em would have problems putting up the cash on demand.
Posted on 12/23/10 at 8:07 am to Great Plains Tiger
Thanks for the link. That's good stuff.
Posted on 12/27/10 at 4:33 pm to crimsonsaint
Banks are funded on an ongoing basis with deposits and debt. Over time, due to the fundamentals of economics and the behavior of people, banks leverage up, and with more time those that rely to a large degree on short term credit get their asses handed to them when credit markets get spooked because they are neither able to fund nor refi maturing debts.
I've done audit work for some of the largest investment banks, worked with Yankee baffoons and have come to the conclusion that in their current states these things are hollow nothingness, but who knows, maybe THAT'S PRICED IN!
I've done audit work for some of the largest investment banks, worked with Yankee baffoons and have come to the conclusion that in their current states these things are hollow nothingness, but who knows, maybe THAT'S PRICED IN!
Posted on 12/28/10 at 3:56 pm to Great Plains Tiger
Amazing read. I am not too bright on the subject but that article certainly raises many questions on what happened with bear, but more importantly what could happen in the future.
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