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Offensive talent digressing under Crowton...

Posted on 12/2/10 at 7:58 am
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15636 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 7:58 am
I am sick and freaking tired of watching us diminish our recruiting classes and talent under his watch. Granted you get a overhyped kid every now and then, but name one offensive skill player that has lived up to the hype. This tells me it's all the system, and the finger points directly to Crowten.

Shep and Randle will be Juniors next year and have produced very little.

Are our QBs really that bad or is it the system? Both were very well thought of kids coming out of high school.

Chuck Scott, Kieland Williams, D Byrd, Terrance Tolliver, and Brandon Lafell got worse the longer they were at LSU.

Even Matt Flynn digressed as the year went on in '07, and I garuntee you we don't win the SEC without the spark that Perrilloux provided at the end of the season.

If Crowten is retained it is a sad day for LSU football. If anything, I really am starting to feel sorry for Jordan Jefferson who has had to accept and take most of the criticism.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
45995 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 8:02 am to
regressing?
Posted by CigarLovingTiger
Buford, GA
Member since Sep 2010
2987 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 8:05 am to
quote:

Even Matt Flynn digressed as the year went on in '07,



What the hell are you talking about? Flynn was solid all year, shite he put close to 400 passing yards on Bama that year? 4 TDs against Ohio Suck.


quote:

I garuntee you we don't win the SEC without the spark that Perrilloux provided at the end of the season.


UT should have never been in that game, LSU dominiated but turnovers at the wrong time let UT stay around.

quote:

Chuck Scott, Kieland Williams, D Byrd, Terrance Tolliver, and Brandon Lafell got worse the longer they were at LSU.


I am not even going to comment on this one.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81774 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 8:09 am to
Posted by CigarLovingTiger
Buford, GA
Member since Sep 2010
2987 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 8:11 am to
quote:

josh336



When are you going to do your preview for the baseball team this year? Now that the football team only has one game left I am looking forward to the baseball season.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81774 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 8:13 am to
quote:

When are you going to do your preview for the baseball team this year?

I don't think i've ever done a preview . Maybe you are thinking of Adam4848
quote:

Now that the football team only has one game left I am looking forward to the baseball season.

No doubt.

I'll eventually have a thread where I might pick some surprise players that everyone is gonna love next year though.
Posted by Bread Orgeron
Baw Bakery
Member since Aug 2006
11866 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 8:15 am to
quote:

digressing


Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17772 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 8:18 am to
Even though you used the wrong words and you misspelled a few names, you have a point. Think about who our best offensive recruits were the past few years then think about how they've played on the field. When one or two recruits fail to live up to expectations, it's normal. But when it becomes a common thing, it's coaching.
Posted by MontanaTiger
Montana
Member since Oct 2008
3933 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 8:24 am to
digress
Verb: Leave the main subject temporarily in speech or writing.

regress
v. re·gressed, re·gress·ing, re·gress·es. v.intr. 1. To go back; move backward. 2. To return to a previous, usually worse or less developed state.
Posted by CigarLovingTiger
Buford, GA
Member since Sep 2010
2987 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Maybe you are thinking of Adam4848


Your right I am, I just remember you from a lot of threads last year with the baseball team.
Posted by OzChuffnugg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
1640 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 9:10 am to
Our record has improved every year since JJ and JL have been starters. I want Crowton gone as well but I have a hard time understanding how you think we have been getting worse
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10283 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 9:12 am to

Its a lack of confidence.

Can be attributed to coaching and other environmental factors such as assholes on message boards and newspapers etc pointing out their faults everyday.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15636 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Our record has improved every year since JJ and JL have been starters. I want Crowton gone as well but I have a hard time understanding how you think we have been getting worse


Our defense has gotten better. You can't tell me that JJ or JL have gotten better since they were freshman. JJ has gotten worse. JL is about the same.

Posted by mt1
LV
Member since Nov 2006
7657 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 9:14 am to
Maybe Miles is just a shitty recruiter or evaluator of talent?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60590 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 9:16 am to
Randle had a pretty fair Soph season.

Toliver was given a good many chances,

Shepard has been utilized poorly.

Flynn, Scott, Williams, Lafell, and Byrd were all on NFL Rosters at some point. I am pretty sure you dont make that level if you regress from your high school abilities.

Do we need a new OC...without question, but to say our players regress shows lack of reason.

Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7700 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 9:20 am to
Only thing REGRESSING is fan base,...but its actually a FEW dumbass's that come on here talking stupid shite...but that's ok,..LSU will survive and thrive anyway...
Posted by MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Ocean Springs,Ms.
Member since Dec 2007
2450 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Are our QBs really that bad or is it the system? Both were very well thought of kids coming out of high school.


If you read your entire OP, you would be able to answer this question yourself.

I think Crowton's time has passed here and I believe so does Les Miles. But, what really has hurt Crowton the worst is very poor QB play. Neither JJ or JL have "It" when it comes to being the guy. I wish both did, they are great kids, but the truth is obvious. Just my take on it.
Posted by growler
Alexandria, LA
Member since Apr 2004
429 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 10:05 am to
Regressing not digressing.
Posted by TigerSpy
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
9961 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 10:12 am to
Regress, not digress.
Crowton, not Crowten
Keiland Williams.
fricking Tech.
Posted by OzChuffnugg
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
1640 posts
Posted on 12/2/10 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Our defense has gotten better. You can't tell me that JJ or JL have gotten better since they were freshman. JJ has gotten worse. JL is about the same.


Point taken, I will agree that they haven't gotten much better. However, I think JJ is a better game manager then last year. He took a lot more sacks last year. (Didn't look up numbers, but it seems that way to me). Offensive line has improved and he still takes way too many sacks but last year was awful. JL has not improved much but has looked better then last two years. Florida and Tenn this year way better then LA Tech last year or any game his freshman year.

No doubt QB play has still been very poor and inconsistant
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