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Posted on 11/20/10 at 6:13 pm to NOLATiger86
I thik its against the rules to post the whole thing.
Here is the most important part:
Here is the most important part:
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But on the court, there are three major reasons to like this trade for New Orleans.
First, Jack is, at the moment, better than Bayless. For a franchise in win-today mode, that's a vital consideration. Bayless may eventually become a potent high-scoring guard as a poor man's Devin Harris, but he isn't there yet and was unlikely to ever reach that status playing 10 minutes a night behind Paul. In fact, he had struggled mightily in his brief stay with the Hornets after a solid season in Portland a year ago. (Bayless, incidentally, was a Hornet for just four weeks. Hope he was renting. If you're following the math from the previous trade that brought Bayless from Portland, New Orleans essentially used next year's first-round pick on Jack.)
Second, Jack is much more capable than Bayless of playing with Paul in the same backcourt. He's a better outside shooter and floor spacer, and he is bigger and can more realistically check 2s. Because of those considerations, he's a better fit in the Hornets' rotation than Bayless.
And finally, there's Andersen. Yes, he's softer than cotton candy, but this could be a useful throw-in. The one thing he can do is play the pick-and-pop game. With a masterful pick-and-roll point guard like Paul on his side, that's likely to make Andersen a useful offensive weapon off the bench. He's a 7-footer too, so as limited as he may be defensively he helps address a glaring lack of size in the Hornets' second unit.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 6:14 pm to rondo
This part is of interest too:
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Plus, the Hornets have still left the door open for a more meaningful transaction down the road. While Stojakovic's huge expiring contact is out of the picture, they have $9 million in expiring deals in Green and Banks, plus other expirings (Belinelli, Smith, Andersen) they can combine in a trade should a blockbuster come available. They also own a desirable young player who isn't getting minutes in Thornton, another in Pondexter, and a $6.2 million trade exception from the Peterson deal.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 6:33 pm to rondo
was Thornton NOT playing because they didn't want him to be trade bait for this deal?
Melo will be in NO less than 30 days
Melo will be in NO less than 30 days
Posted on 11/20/10 at 7:30 pm to hsfolk
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The only player from Toronto I want is Andrea Bargnani
calderon is a really good point guard and would make a great backup, fwiw
Posted on 11/20/10 at 7:32 pm to TigerinATL
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That would allow us to pick up a $4 million player
how many quality players are $4M players?
Posted on 11/20/10 at 7:35 pm to rondo
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he is bigger and can more realistically check 2s.
I wonder what it all means for MT5.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 7:40 pm to rondo
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Jake >>>> Dell
I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS A BAD DEAL
we finally have a legit backup point
i don't like the "dell has only done right" comments for this trade, solely b/c he obviously fricked up when he acquired bayless originally. he's made good moves otherwise, but he's not perfect
Posted on 11/20/10 at 7:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
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calderon is a really good point guard and would make a great backup, fwiw
Calderon is one of the worst PG's in the league
This post was edited on 11/20/10 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 11/20/10 at 7:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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calderon is a really good point guard and would make a great backup, fwiw
Calderon makes $9-$11 million a season until the end of the 2012-2013 season, which is a lot of money for a backup.
Jack, OTOH, makes about $5 million a season for the same period of time.
If we were having to lay out about $11 million a season for a traded player, I'd take Iggy over Calderon in a heartbeat.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 7:51 pm to Dodd
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was Thornton NOT playing because they didn't want him to be trade bait for this deal?
Melo will be in NO less than 30 days
mmm I don't think you know what you're talking about
Posted on 11/20/10 at 7:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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solely b/c he obviously fricked up when he acquired bayless originally.
yeah what an epic frickup
Posted on 11/20/10 at 8:28 pm to Lester Earl
what's the dl on the hornets response to this fo realz? How do we feel as a fan nation?
Posted on 11/20/10 at 8:35 pm to teke184
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Calderon makes $9-$11 million a season until the end of the 2012-2013 season, which is a lot of money for a backup.
Jack, OTOH, makes about $5 million a season for the same period of time.
i was just saying toronto had more than bargnani, not that we should have gone after calderon
Posted on 11/20/10 at 8:36 pm to Brageous
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How do we feel as a fan nation?
it's not a major deal and it doesn't have much drawbacks. i'm wondering if we straight up buy out banks
Posted on 11/20/10 at 8:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Dont see why they do that when they could use his expiring down the line to make another deal
i'm wondering if we straight up buy out banks
Posted on 11/20/10 at 8:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i don't like the "dell has only done right" comments for this trade, solely b/c he obviously fricked up when he acquired bayless originally. he's made good moves otherwise, but he's not perfect
I've seen no mistakes so far from Dell...Portland basically gave him away , and we got Jarret Jack for a late 1st round pick next year essentially.
Posted on 11/20/10 at 8:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i was just saying toronto had more than bargnani, not that we should have gone after calderon
You were implying that Calderon is an asset.
Frankly, I think he's an albatross around the Raptors' necks between that contract and his defensive capabilities.
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