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Someone Please Explain To Me
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:20 am
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:20 am
how pulling for Auburn or Alabama or Florida or any other team that LSU recruits against in ANY sport DIRECTLY helps LSU.
LSUs championships are used to entice recruits to come to LSU instead of other schools. Won't Auburn or Alabama or others use their championships in the same way?
So I again ask for a CLEAR EXPLANATION of how any SEC school's championship helps LSU to recruit or win games or be more competitive in a game?
To put it another way, if you are rooting for another SEC team to be more successful than LSU in pursuit of championships, are you also rooting for them to be more successful in recruiting?
LSUs championships are used to entice recruits to come to LSU instead of other schools. Won't Auburn or Alabama or others use their championships in the same way?
So I again ask for a CLEAR EXPLANATION of how any SEC school's championship helps LSU to recruit or win games or be more competitive in a game?
To put it another way, if you are rooting for another SEC team to be more successful than LSU in pursuit of championships, are you also rooting for them to be more successful in recruiting?
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:22 am to ksliman
I have always hated this as well. I do not understand the whole confrence pride thing. If your not LSU then piss off.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:22 am to ksliman
It only indirectly helps LSU by helping the SEC stay atop the college football world so that when an SEC team has a loss, they still have a better shot of getting into the NC.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:24 am to ksliman
It doesn't. Some people have this "SEC pride" for some reason. Personally, i couldn't give a rats arse about the SEC. They'll cheer for Auburn to win a NC because its "good for the SEC" without realizing it could possibly hurt LSU.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:24 am to Tiger Authority
quote:
It only indirectly helps LSU by helping the SEC stay atop the college football world so that when an SEC team has a loss, they still have a better shot of getting into the NC.
+10000
This is huge. Dont be short sighted about it.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:24 am to ksliman
quote:
LSUs championships are used to entice recruits to come to LSU
Opportunities to PLAY for championships are used. The past one's do not benefit the recruit. They simply point out that LSU is a place that CAN play for one.
The SEC winning makes the SEC more respected and gives the benefit of the doubt to SEC champs.
Also, I am not a whining baby. I can respect the teams that outplay LSU and appreciate that their being good makes my Saturdays in the fall more enjoyable.
I do NOT want Boise State's schedule.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:24 am to ndtiger
I hope Auburn gets spanked in every game they play
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:25 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
The SEC winning makes the SEC more respected and gives the benefit of the doubt to SEC champs.
Also, I am not a whining baby. I can respect the teams that outplay LSU and appreciate that their being good makes my Saturdays in the fall more enjoyable.
I do NOT want Boise State's schedule.
+10000000
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:26 am to Boomski
Anyone worth their salt wants to be the best by beating the best.
It's why SEC football is what it is - you know you are going against the best week after week.
Losers, bullies and little-sister-beaters love everyone else being weak so they can be on top.
Which one are you guys?
It's why SEC football is what it is - you know you are going against the best week after week.
Losers, bullies and little-sister-beaters love everyone else being weak so they can be on top.
Which one are you guys?
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:29 am to 1p56
we beat the last 2 national champ this year.
And some still question whether we are worth our salt.
And some still question whether we are worth our salt.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:33 am to ksliman
You must not listen to very much national media and the SEC domination discussions. Every time someone starts this discussion whether for the SEC or arguing against someone points out the list of SEC National Champions the last few years. LSU is always in the discussion.
If Oregon or BS or TCU win it this year instead of Auburn then that discussion will cease.
If Oregon or BS or TCU win it this year instead of Auburn then that discussion will cease.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:36 am to ksliman
The SEC being a dominant conference helped LSU get into the title game in '07. Reputation of the conference helps strength of schedule. And honestly, I don't think winning a national championship bolsters recruiting that much.
Sure it helps, but its not like you get any kid you want just because you won a title last year.
Sure it helps, but its not like you get any kid you want just because you won a title last year.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:42 am to ksliman
I'm probably in the middle on this one. I generally pull for SEC teams, probably out of a sense of regional pride and perhaps moreso because I am familiar with them. I watch SEC football much more than I watch other teams play, so when they play out of conference opponents, I tend to want them to win. I also like the SEC keeping up its rep as the toughest conference because I think that does help LSU with the coaches and Harris poll voters. But that's about the limit of my conference pride. I had a ball watching Bama get licked by Utah and I have been known to pull for Auburn's opponents, too (especially if they play Wisconsin; I like the Badgers).
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:45 am to ksliman
For me, besides SEC pride, its economics. LSU gets more money from the SEC for more SEC teams playing in bowl games, especially if we get 2 teams in BCS bowls.
If LSU has no shot at playing for the national champioship even if Oregon and Auburn have losses, I would much prefer Auburn to play in the National Championship game and take the $17 million back to the SEC. In that scenario, we would likely also get a BCS bowl for another $17 million payout to take back to the SEC. The SEC teams would split $34 million, just from those two games.
If Auburn or LSU do not play for the national championship, we may only get $17 million total to split amongst the SEC teams.
This is not to mention the prestige of the SEC and getting better bowl tie-ins, for even more bowl money to split.
Although, I do understand the hate of SEC schools. I only root for them if it helps LSU atheltics.
If LSU has no shot at playing for the national champioship even if Oregon and Auburn have losses, I would much prefer Auburn to play in the National Championship game and take the $17 million back to the SEC. In that scenario, we would likely also get a BCS bowl for another $17 million payout to take back to the SEC. The SEC teams would split $34 million, just from those two games.
If Auburn or LSU do not play for the national championship, we may only get $17 million total to split amongst the SEC teams.
This is not to mention the prestige of the SEC and getting better bowl tie-ins, for even more bowl money to split.
Although, I do understand the hate of SEC schools. I only root for them if it helps LSU atheltics.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:58 am to vdecossa
If you build up the competition and then beat the competition, your team looks that much better.
Would the win against Alabama look different if they didn't win a national championship last year? I think it would.
Would the win against Alabama look different if they didn't win a national championship last year? I think it would.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:02 am to ksliman
quote:
Someone Please Explain To Me
how pulling for Auburn or Alabama or Florida or any other team that LSU recruits against in ANY sport DIRECTLY helps LSU.
LSUs championships are used to entice recruits to come to LSU instead of other schools. Won't Auburn or Alabama or others use their championships in the same way?
So I again ask for a CLEAR EXPLANATION of how any SEC school's championship helps LSU to recruit or win games or be more competitive in a game?
To put it another way, if you are rooting for another SEC team to be more successful than LSU in pursuit of championships, are you also rooting for them to be more successful in recruiting?
First you're going to have to explain to me how a fan pulling for a team that they're watching play on TV actually helps that team win the game.
Then I'll tell you that LSU is only as good as its competition. The better the teams LSU beats, the better LSU is perceived.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:11 am to ksliman
That's a good question, and your position is valid. I respectfully disagree, however.
1. Regional pride. I remember all those years when the SEC teams were considered second tier by the sportscasters who loved ND, Ohio State, USC, Michigan, etc. The return of objectivity via the BCS has laid waste to those prejudices, and I for one will always chant "SEC!" when I'm at a game where an SEC school puts a beatdown on one of those pampered pretenders.
2. If LSU does well it does not affect recruiting that significantly for other SEC schools to do well also. A kid who is leaning LSU/Ala is not going to make his choice because we finish #5 and bama finishes #2. If he does he's an idiot. And if we all finish well it enhances the conference reputation for all of us.
3. I draw the line at cheaters. I will not pull for Auburn in any postseason games this year.
Auburn
1. Regional pride. I remember all those years when the SEC teams were considered second tier by the sportscasters who loved ND, Ohio State, USC, Michigan, etc. The return of objectivity via the BCS has laid waste to those prejudices, and I for one will always chant "SEC!" when I'm at a game where an SEC school puts a beatdown on one of those pampered pretenders.
2. If LSU does well it does not affect recruiting that significantly for other SEC schools to do well also. A kid who is leaning LSU/Ala is not going to make his choice because we finish #5 and bama finishes #2. If he does he's an idiot. And if we all finish well it enhances the conference reputation for all of us.
3. I draw the line at cheaters. I will not pull for Auburn in any postseason games this year.
Auburn
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:12 am to Choctaw
quote:
It doesn't. Some people have this "SEC pride" for some reason. Personally, i couldn't give a rats arse about the SEC. They'll cheer for Auburn to win a NC because its "good for the SEC" without realizing it could possibly hurt LSU.
You do realize that if Auburn beats Oregon in the BCSCG this year, LSU will have a chance to beat the defending national champs next year AND the team they beat for the championship...?
Lately LSU has had the chance to beat the defending national champs every year (and DID this year) exceoept for those years LSU won it. That's why SEC teams get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the polls.
If other SEC teams didn't win championships, LSU's schedule would look like TCU's and we'd all be sitting around worrying about if LSU would get enough credit to stave off a one-loss challenger for a spot in the BCSCG.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:13 am to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:If Oregon beats Auburn then LSU has the same chance
You do realize that if Auburn beats Oregon in the BCSCG this year, LSU will have a chance to beat the defending national champs next year AND the team they beat for the championship...?
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