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Posted on 11/1/10 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 6:51 pm to
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I was thinking about that. But they didn't really say how long the main guy was out of commission though. Maybe she wasn't cheating on him when he was alive and well, but cultivated a relationship with the partner over the hospitalization and the fleeing and what not.


now that this is brought up, I forgot to ask how much time elapsed between him getting shot and waking up in the hospital?
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 6:58 pm to
They never say. In the comic he literally gets shot one page and wakes up on the next.

If I had to guess I'd say no more than a week
Posted by lsufanintexas
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:00 pm to
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now that this is brought up, I forgot to ask how much time elapsed between him getting shot and waking up in the hospital?



It had to be only weeks according to my wife who dries flowers as a hobby. But who knows. When his partner came talk to him, we really don't know the time difference between that point and when he got shot either. I assume it had to be at least 3-6 months. Plus think about it. It takes a while for the military to set up so that adds into my theory of it being 3-6 months between the time he was shot and the outbreak.

I know they probably won't get into but I have always been fascinated by the backstories of zombie apocalypses. I wonder what started this one. Is it explained in the comic?
This post was edited on 11/1/10 at 7:00 pm
Posted by Tigreat
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:00 pm to
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If I had to guess I'd say no more than a week
Hmmm...those flowers were pretty dead when he woke up, but I guess that could occur in a week. But with the amount of devastation, he had to have been out for a month at least.
Posted by Tigreat
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

I know they probably won't get into but I have always been fascinated by the backstories of zombie apocalypses. I wonder what started this one. Is it explained in the comic?
Yea I was wondering that the entire episode. I hope they get into it at one point.

Also, I have to agree with that 3-6 months estimate. There is no way there could be that much destruction along with the army being mobilized and subsequently destroyed in a week or even a month. There had to be a big time lapse there.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:11 pm to
I just guessed at a week because I don't know how long someone could survive in that situation without outside care. And the electricity was out as well.

It's one of those things that isn't explained because in the end it doesn't impact the story in any way. Kirkman needed a way to get his main character into a zombie apacolypse. And even though he swears he has never seen 28 days later, I have my doubts
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:19 pm to
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28 days later,


Great Zombie flick.

Never read The Walking Dead Comic, but this pilot was fantastic, amongst the best I've seen across any genre (including the Shield, which is maybe critically considered the best).

I love that they set a bar of tension without resorting to cheapo scares. They frighten you more with what you DON'T see than what you DO see. It would get cheesy if it was just a zombie pop-out/scare fest.

It seems to me, the zombies aren't really the story... they are just the vehicle being used to tell the story of isolation and a host of other themes.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:22 pm to
Okay I watched it. Some thoughts:

- Incredibly slow pace. But I liked that. It does a solid job as a pilot to slowly explainyje situation and set up the season. That being said, the hour and a half went by fairly quickly (if that makes sense).

- Thought it was odd that the Magical Negro stayed behind with his son. Seems like once I find other people, the smart move is to stay together. And on top of that, he made a HUGE deal out of the noise, yet decided to snipe people for target practice from his bedroom window, which will only attract tons more, all to kill his former wife.

- I wondered as well if main guy's partner was also cheating with a-hole sidekick prior to Z Day. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

- Also agree that no way the creator hadn't seen 28 Days Later. No way.

- Thought it was shot very well. And the tank scene was great. Intense how he was about to off himself and noticed the door above. That was awesome.

- All in all, I love zombie shite, and can't wait to see how this season unfolds.
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

- Thought it was shot very well. And the tank scene was great. Intense how he was about to off himself and noticed the door above. That was awesome.

- All in all, I love zombie shite, and can't wait to see how this season unfolds.



Second both of these things.
Posted by Happyboucher
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:34 pm to
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now that this is brought up, I forgot to ask how much time elapsed between him getting shot and waking up in the hospital?


Website indicates he was in a coma for weeks.
Posted by SCUBAislander
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by tigger1
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:40 pm to
based on the flowers I would think 14-18 days.

It takes some time to get to that state and the water would last for a while in the vase.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:48 pm to
Just watched it myself, as someone who loves zombies and is semi-familiar with the comic books...

I thought it was great. Extremely well done. Maybe the best rendition of zombies ever.

What was striking was the tone of the show, as well as the main characters. Rick was excellent. And obviously, the show isn't about zombies, as OBU said, they are merely a vehicle for something else (and something that isn't as campy or as blunt as Romero's work). As long as the show keeps the premise, that it's about the people, then it should be ok. If it ever resorts to "How many zombies can we kill this week," it will die quickly. Because even as a zombie fan, that would get old quick.

I had high expectations, and this still surpassed them. Just wow. Let's hope this gets a long run.
Posted by JoLeUGA
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:48 pm to
SIAP:

The show had 5.3M viewers last night, making it the largest audience for any original series on AMC.

It scored a 3.7 HH rating.

This post was edited on 11/1/10 at 7:51 pm
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 7:53 pm to
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If it ever resorts to "How many zombies can we kill this week," it will die quickly. Because even as a zombie fan, that would get old quick.


Yeah it would. It works for 2 hours in a movie, just like the campy dialogue does for Romero flicks, but week after week after week of it would get redundant and stupid.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 8:24 pm to
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- Incredibly slow pace. But I liked that. It does a solid job as a pilot to slowly explainyje situation and set up the season. That being said, the hour and a half went by fairly quickly (if that makes sense).


agreed, the slow pace was perfect in building tension and still keeping the show interesting. and yes the hour and a half flew by. i was sad when i saw it was almost over

quote:

Thought it was odd that the Magical Negro stayed behind with his son. Seems like once I find other people, the smart move is to stay together

in the comic, rick was pretty set on finding hi son and wife. morgan was like "i'm not going anywhere and puting my son in danger."

quote:

And on top of that, he made a HUGE deal out of the noise, yet decided to snipe people for target practice from his bedroom window, which will only attract tons more, all to kill his former wife

yeah...this was 100% hollywood

quote:

I wondered as well if main guy's partner was also cheating with a-hole sidekick prior to Z Day. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case

SPOILER ALERT

















In the comic (and i can only speak for the comic) they had no relationship prior to being on the road together. In their minds, rick is dead in the hospital and they have sex one night on the road. Lori regrets it, but Shane gets attached big time. Shane has always had a thing for Lori but would never act on it because of his partnership with rick.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 8:28 pm to
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If it ever resorts to "How many zombies can we kill this week," it will die quickly. Because even as a zombie fan, that would get old quick.

it will never resort to that. hell, there are times in the comic where no zombies are around (like 3-4 issues in a row). Its mainly a focus on human interaction in a world gone to hell. the zombies are a backdrop


I'm rewatching it now and the part where Morgan's wife is looking at the door with Rick on the other side is freaky as hell
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 8:31 pm to
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Also, I have to agree with that 3-6 months estimate. There is no way there could be that much destruction along with the army being mobilized and subsequently destroyed in a week or even a month. There had to be a big time lapse there.



and also judging by the decay of a lot of the bodies. But I guess a super virus could speed up that process as well. If I had to guess I'd say at least a couple of months, but I thought maybe one of the comic readers would have a definitive answer.
Posted by OBUDan
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

I'm rewatching it now and the part where Morgan's wife is looking at the door with Rick on the other side is freaky as hell


That's the perfect instance of what I mean by creating something scary that doesn't resort to cheap tricks.

That is legit scary.
The tension when he first finds the zombies behind that door as well.
And walking through the dark stair case... it would have been cheap to have something pop up and scare you there.
Posted by Michael J Cocks
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Posted on 11/1/10 at 8:38 pm to
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Thought it was odd that the Magical Negro stayed behind with his son. Seems like once I find other people, the smart move is to stay together. And on top of that, he made a HUGE deal out of the noise, yet decided to snipe people for target practice from his bedroom window, which will only attract tons more, all to kill his former wife.


I was kind of put off by that too, but I just took it as he had to put her down before he could move on. I mean I don't think he accepts she's gone just yet, he has to make sure she's completely dead and then it seemed like he just couldn't accept that either.
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