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Throwing deep

Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:13 pm
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5242 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:13 pm
If we don't do it at all, the defenses don't have to gameplan for it...did JJ or JL throw a pass longer than the Ware TD pass? The secondary was Auburn's weakness, yet we don't even try to expose it???
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:14 pm to
I think Lee attempted one, but was incomplete. Other than that..no we never went deep with it. Screens and slants.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25150 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:14 pm to
JJ's pick was fairly long, as was the one tolliver dropped before the eventual JJ running td.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36919 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

If we don't do it at all, the defenses don't have to gameplan for it...did JJ or JL throw a pass longer than the Ware TD pass? The secondary was Auburn's weakness, yet we don't even try to expose it???


Um, I don't know which game you watched, but when did our QB's have the time to throw deep?

Nice example of another ranter having no clue about what he is talking about.
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3432 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:17 pm to
Lee tried to go deep a couple of times, one of them he missed so bad you couldn't tell which wr he was throwing to and the other RR had to do PI to keep it from being picked. We cant throw deep with either QB.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49053 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

I think Lee attempted one, but was incomplete. Other than that..no we never went deep with it. Screens and slants.


Four all game.

JJ to Randle in the 1st - Int.

Lee to Randle in the 2nd - incomplete

JJ to Toliver in the 2nd - drop and would have been a sure touchdown. Granted, this was not the play. JJ broke contain and Toliver broke off his route and went behind the defense.

Ware to Randle - TD.

So only four times and only three times was the deep ball actually called.

Fire Crowton.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36919 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Four all game.

JJ to Randle in the 1st - Int.

Lee to Randle in the 2nd - incomplete

JJ to Toliver in the 2nd - drop and would have been a sure touchdown. Granted, this was not the play. JJ broke contain and Toliver broke off his route and went behind the defense.

Ware to Randle - TD.

So only four times and only three times was the deep ball actually called.

Fire Crowton.



AGAIN, I ask "when did the QB's have the time to drop back and have time to throw deep"? Seems like the OL wasn't helping keep the rush away for more than 2 seconds.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16753 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:25 pm to
Yes, Lee attempted one to Randle on a 3rd and 7. I hate that call. As much as people hate throwing short of the first down marker on 3rd down, a deep pass is worse, especially given our QB play. It's a great 1st or 2nd down call and a horrible 3rd down call. On 3rd down, you call a play that will give us a chance at getting the 1st down.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49053 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

AGAIN, I ask "when did the QB's have the time to drop back and have time to throw deep"? Seems like the OL wasn't helping keep the rush away for more than 2 seconds


Glad you asked. Several times our QBs dropped back and had time to throw, but we were, as par for the course, running short routes anywhere but the middle of the field.

And, seeing as we were having trouble blocking Fairly, wouldn't have been nice to call a screen play, or keep a back in to chip block?

But, remember, Gary Mr. Wizard Crowton doesn't make adjustments. He runs "his" offense whether it works or not.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:41 pm to
Lee tried one, incomplete. JJ had two throws of at least 20 yards; the interception and the drop by TT in the two-minute drill. Lee's wrist injury definitely effected his throwing ability in the second half. Just as soon have had JJ in the whole second half because of that IMO.
Posted by tigerman18
Member since Jun 2007
129 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:50 pm to
what i cant understand is how you have a reciever who is 6 5 and has the potential to be a great wr and you cant tell the quarterback to drop back 5 steps and just throw it down the sideline every now and then....qb puts it close and i'll say tolliver catches it half the time.
Posted by BigShotBobert
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jul 2010
948 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Glad you asked. Several times our QBs dropped back and had time to throw, but we were, as par for the course, running short routes anywhere but the middle of the field.

And, seeing as we were having trouble blocking Fairly, wouldn't have been nice to call a screen play, or keep a back in to chip block?

But, remember, Gary Mr. Wizard Crowton doesn't make adjustments. He runs "his" offense whether it works or not.


This. If we would have started hurting them with slants and screens over the middle, it would have caused them to use more caution when coming after our QB's. Thus, buying time to throw down field. Instead not one single adjustment was made. We ran the exact same offense all game. Auburn ( probably with a huge grin on their face) just stacked the box, stuffed the run and got pressure before any routs could develop. Our line got dominated but it wasn't their fault everytime. A lot of the time they were simply out numbered.
Posted by Teacher
Member since Sep 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Throwing deep


Our OLINE would not let JJ or JL throw deep. This game was on our bad OLINE play. Ark. beat AU throwing deep, but they have a good OLINE.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49053 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Ark. beat AU throwing deep, but they have a competent human being calling plays


FIFY
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29263 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

but they have a good OLINE.


Who has responsibility to recruit O-Lineman?
Posted by adavis
North of I-10
Member since Aug 2007
5935 posts
Posted on 10/25/10 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

AGAIN, I ask "when did the QB's have the time to drop back and have time to throw deep"? Seems like the OL wasn't helping keep the rush away for more than 2 seconds


There were actually quite a few chances. Our OL did play like shite, but there were a few times JJ/JL had a shot downfield and either ran it, or threw one of those ugly arse slant/screens Crowton loves. If they had gone deep, I imagine they would have been picked anyway.
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