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College Athletes Being Paid Question
Posted on 9/15/10 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/15/10 at 11:21 am
I read an article that was linked on here about a week ago about a former athlete who was writing for a website anonymously and I can't remember the site?
Any help please?
Any help please?
Posted on 9/15/10 at 11:23 am to GeauxAggie972
Probably that anonymous ESPN Player X shite. They should get paid in some sort or another.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 11:36 am to Jcorye1
It wasn't an ESPN thing, it was on some other sports website and I can't think of it now
Posted on 9/15/10 at 11:49 am to Jcorye1
No they shouldn't. Only something like 10 programs actually ran in the black last year. This would just make it worse, with more programs using tax dollars to supplement the deficits.
Also if you pay them then according title 9 they would have to pay enough female athletes to offset every penny that goes to any male athlete.
I'm sure I will be in the minority here but they shouldn't get paid. Most are getting over 100k in scholarships, while moat schools lose big money on their athletic department. Most athletes never make enough money for the university for the school to recoup the scholarship money. Even most football players don't.
Now I would be all for it if title 9 didn't exist and all schools made enough money to cover a small stipend of maybe 200-400/month. All schools would have to be on an equal playing field to.
Most people who say they should be paid ignore these facts. Paying players would be a logistical nightmare.
Also if you pay them then according title 9 they would have to pay enough female athletes to offset every penny that goes to any male athlete.
I'm sure I will be in the minority here but they shouldn't get paid. Most are getting over 100k in scholarships, while moat schools lose big money on their athletic department. Most athletes never make enough money for the university for the school to recoup the scholarship money. Even most football players don't.
Now I would be all for it if title 9 didn't exist and all schools made enough money to cover a small stipend of maybe 200-400/month. All schools would have to be on an equal playing field to.
Most people who say they should be paid ignore these facts. Paying players would be a logistical nightmare.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 12:16 pm to lsu777
Title IX doesn't insist upon equal stipends.
paying the athletes isn't 100% of the solution, anyway.
paying the athletes isn't 100% of the solution, anyway.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 1:25 pm to Sophandros
So they have to give one scholarship to a female for every male that gets one, but your telling me they could oH just football players? Please the lawsuit would be filed the same day as they institute the policy to pay them, would be settled within 2 years and they would win. Party over.
And I agree that paying them isn't the answer.
And I agree that paying them isn't the answer.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 1:43 pm to lsu777
They should be able to make whatever money they can off their image and name. SImple. If Julio Jones and Patrick Petersen want to get together, do a commercial for T-mobile, and get paid a couple hundred grand a piece? Let them. Doesn't affect the school at all. Doesn't require they pay out any money. I don't see the problem. Let NCAA Football pay them for the use of their name and likeness. Where the problem in that? If you're famous you should be able to use your fame to make money. It's yours. The lower tier schools and athletes...hell they could hawk cars and shite on the radio...
Sure not everyone would get paid, but that's the beauty of it.
Sure not everyone would get paid, but that's the beauty of it.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 1:50 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
College football is the most dishonest sport in America. We pretend the players are student athletes. We pretend that these kids are in school for an education that they have the capacity to take advantage of the educational opportunity. We have to build athletic academic centers with "tutors" to make sure these barely literate kids can make the bare minimum grades so they can suit up on Saturday for our drunk asses to cheer.
Football needs a minor league system and college football needs to be returned to true student athletes.
Or they need to end the charade and just make playing college football a 4 year degree or just affiliate minor league football teams with colleges. Something. Honesty.
Football needs a minor league system and college football needs to be returned to true student athletes.
Or they need to end the charade and just make playing college football a 4 year degree or just affiliate minor league football teams with colleges. Something. Honesty.
This post was edited on 9/15/10 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 9/15/10 at 1:52 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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They should be able to make whatever money they can off their image and name. SImple. If Julio Jones and Patrick Petersen want to get together, do a commercial for T-mobile, and get paid a couple hundred grand a piece? Let them. Doesn't affect the school at all. Doesn't require they pay out any money. I don't see the problem. Let NCAA Football pay them for the use of their name and likeness. Where the problem in that? If you're famous you should be able to use your fame to make money. It's yours. The lower tier schools and athletes...hell they could hawk cars and shite on the radio...
Yes - end the amateur athlete charade too. They are barred from doing it to give us this feel good image of a student athlete. It's all form no substance. The kids end up taking money from agents.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 3:09 pm to lsu777
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So they have to give one scholarship to a female for every male that gets one, but your telling me they could oH just football players?
If they, for example, say that 1% of the ticket revenue goes to the players, regardless of sport, then it works out.
So if football has 1,000,000 in ticket sales, the football players get 10,000. If women's hoops gets 100,000 in ticket sales, the women's hoops players get 1,000. I'm just using ticket sales as an example, and the 1% as an easy # to calculate here, but the point is that if they made it an expense off the top, and made every participant's % of their particular sport's revenue, then it could work. Or something similar.
But still, that won't solve the problems of college athletics, particularly in football and basketball...
Posted on 9/15/10 at 3:12 pm to cwill
Worst idea ever. How many of these kids are getting degrees that never would have before? Tons of them.
And I have mixed feelings if they should be able to sell stuff but I understand why they can't. Opens Pandora box. And being an amateur has nothing to do with endorsement deals.
And they have minor league football, its called the CFl and now they have the usfl again. If the kid doesn't want to be a student athlete then they should go play there.
The ncaa should raise min gpa to 3.0 in high school and 21act. That would be a start. Let kids go juco if they can't qualify. And I have no problem with the academic center or tutors. They have tutors for regular students and regular students can pay for advanced tutoring. The provided tutoring for athletes is part of their scholarship.
The solution is to get the ncaa to implement a policy that if u break your schooly agreement you must repay your schoolly in full. Also the nflpa should force anybody who breaks the rules to give up half their signing bonus and any agent who gives money has to pay a fine of 1 million the first time, 5 million the second and a life time ban the 3rd time. That would fix the problems.
As far as where the players get money, they should be able to have part time jobs and either the family should help pay some and they should take out student loans/grants. Just like every normal student.
Just like if a player from in state gets tops he should be able to get the football scholly money and tops to pay tuition. Any left over he should get. And most of the athletes in the ncaa are getting degrees and are student athletes. Don't let an elite few make u think that most aren't "student athletes."
And I have mixed feelings if they should be able to sell stuff but I understand why they can't. Opens Pandora box. And being an amateur has nothing to do with endorsement deals.
And they have minor league football, its called the CFl and now they have the usfl again. If the kid doesn't want to be a student athlete then they should go play there.
The ncaa should raise min gpa to 3.0 in high school and 21act. That would be a start. Let kids go juco if they can't qualify. And I have no problem with the academic center or tutors. They have tutors for regular students and regular students can pay for advanced tutoring. The provided tutoring for athletes is part of their scholarship.
The solution is to get the ncaa to implement a policy that if u break your schooly agreement you must repay your schoolly in full. Also the nflpa should force anybody who breaks the rules to give up half their signing bonus and any agent who gives money has to pay a fine of 1 million the first time, 5 million the second and a life time ban the 3rd time. That would fix the problems.
As far as where the players get money, they should be able to have part time jobs and either the family should help pay some and they should take out student loans/grants. Just like every normal student.
Just like if a player from in state gets tops he should be able to get the football scholly money and tops to pay tuition. Any left over he should get. And most of the athletes in the ncaa are getting degrees and are student athletes. Don't let an elite few make u think that most aren't "student athletes."
Posted on 9/15/10 at 3:19 pm to Sophandros
Never thought of it like, that's a good idea I could get behind. Dunno how women's groups will feel about it though and if it would with stand lawsuits.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 3:20 pm to lsu777
You're a head in sand type - it's a joke. Many of the kids you cheer for on Saturday in Tiger Stadium can barely read. And that degree "Tons of them" get - they can wipe their arse with it - some tutor learned the material and really earned the degree.
Raise the standards all you want - they already phony up their grades via correspondence courses on the internet which I guarantee you are taken by tutors and not the athlete. ACT - they cheat that too - just ask John Calapari and Derrick Rose.
It's a sham and you just want to tighten the screws to preserve the sham. If the rules were really enforced and athletes had to qualify for college like the rest of us then linemen would weigh 250 and 4.7 40 would be blazing fast.
Raise the standards all you want - they already phony up their grades via correspondence courses on the internet which I guarantee you are taken by tutors and not the athlete. ACT - they cheat that too - just ask John Calapari and Derrick Rose.
It's a sham and you just want to tighten the screws to preserve the sham. If the rules were really enforced and athletes had to qualify for college like the rest of us then linemen would weigh 250 and 4.7 40 would be blazing fast.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 3:55 pm to lsu777
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As far as where the players get money, they should be able to have part time jobs and either the family should help pay some and they should take out student loans/grants. Just like every normal student.
my fricking god. The rest of your argument has been fine (although I don't necessarily agree with it) but this is retardation.
Do you know what the schedule is like for most college athletes? It's INSANE. 5 am lifting...classes, practice, team meetings, then whatever schoolwork they have. Where exactly should someone fit in a 6hr shift at Chick-fil-a?
So Tim Tebow can work the register at Burger King and have hundreds of customers come in wearing HIS jersey? The school has made tons of money off his likeness and ability, and he gets to work the fry machine 'like everyone else'? Nonsense.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 6:57 pm to LfcSU3520
i was talking summer jobs and the family should pay some.
and not every player in the ncaa plays for a powerhouse like lsu and yes most of earn their degree. and most of the athletes at lsu earn their degree. give the kids some credit, most work their arse off.
and not every player in the ncaa plays for a powerhouse like lsu and yes most of earn their degree. and most of the athletes at lsu earn their degree. give the kids some credit, most work their arse off.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 7:08 pm to lsu777
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and not every player in the ncaa plays for a powerhouse like lsu and yes most of earn their degree. and most of the athletes at lsu earn their degree. give the kids some credit, most work their arse off.
what does this have to do with anything I said. My sister played volleyball at a smaller D1 and she would have had no chance whatsoever to take a job on the side. Just a point of comparison.
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the family should pay some.
oh. Well then that's solved. Players from dirt poor families should just have their parents pitch in more huh?
Posted on 9/15/10 at 7:12 pm to LfcSU3520
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fit in a 6hr shift at Chick-fil-a?
So only the white kids should have jobs?
Posted on 9/15/10 at 7:15 pm to 9Fiddy
i've been there once in my life and it was an azn guy who served me. Is it usually only white people who work there?
Posted on 9/15/10 at 7:18 pm to LfcSU3520
USM's doesn't have a single white. Maybe 930 is color blind.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 7:20 pm to lsu31always
I guess it's just that way up here. Both Chick-fil-a stores are stocked with the youth group from the closest Baptist church 
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