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re: Note to Out of State Alums
Posted on 8/28/10 at 3:57 am to randyb
Posted on 8/28/10 at 3:57 am to randyb
I don't have a dog in this fight;my oldest daughter is at lsu now and youngest will be there in 2011.
Just want to post some info; according to lsu last spring enrollment is down to 18500+/-. mark emmeret did a lot of good things while he was here(saban,etc). emmeret was slowly raising the act/sat scores to get into lsu. during this time enrollment fell from 31500 to 18500. he wanted to make lsu the yale of the south and attract faculty and students from around the world.
lsu announce during the budget cut hearings that the break even point is approx. 31000. so entrace requirements were lowered to attract more students;thus the increase in freshman apps. and enrollment.
A large % of merit based schollies are not available to out of state students. not all of them but a lot. My good friend went to Auburn and his daughter just started there this semester. She was only able to get in-state tuition if she scored a 30 on the act. She took it numerous times but could not off of 29,so they are paying out of state rates.
Maybe the timing is not good for this change. During hard economic times i think you take the students that meet the new lower standards regardless if they live in shreveport or new york city. now is not the time to be choosey. to help make up some of the budget cuts they raised tuition this semester,so the in-state rates are higher to help with the deficit.
The alumni membership numbers are very deceiving. the average alum at miss st pays $30 where the average at lsu is $229. lsu has numerous channels to donate thru(taf,etc.) where at msu and some other sec schools channel everything thru the alum. associations. you can verify this by calling lsu alum office in baton rouge.
Just want to post some info; according to lsu last spring enrollment is down to 18500+/-. mark emmeret did a lot of good things while he was here(saban,etc). emmeret was slowly raising the act/sat scores to get into lsu. during this time enrollment fell from 31500 to 18500. he wanted to make lsu the yale of the south and attract faculty and students from around the world.
lsu announce during the budget cut hearings that the break even point is approx. 31000. so entrace requirements were lowered to attract more students;thus the increase in freshman apps. and enrollment.
A large % of merit based schollies are not available to out of state students. not all of them but a lot. My good friend went to Auburn and his daughter just started there this semester. She was only able to get in-state tuition if she scored a 30 on the act. She took it numerous times but could not off of 29,so they are paying out of state rates.
Maybe the timing is not good for this change. During hard economic times i think you take the students that meet the new lower standards regardless if they live in shreveport or new york city. now is not the time to be choosey. to help make up some of the budget cuts they raised tuition this semester,so the in-state rates are higher to help with the deficit.
The alumni membership numbers are very deceiving. the average alum at miss st pays $30 where the average at lsu is $229. lsu has numerous channels to donate thru(taf,etc.) where at msu and some other sec schools channel everything thru the alum. associations. you can verify this by calling lsu alum office in baton rouge.
This post was edited on 8/28/10 at 4:20 am
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Posted on 8/28/10 at 4:13 am to LSUPEPPER
TAF runs the athletic program. If you give money to TAF, you are making donations toward the athletic program. TAF stands for Tiger ATHLETIC Foundation. You can be a TAF member while in school.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 4:26 am to RemouladeSawce
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Rockyn
Smart out-of-state kids can EASILY get merit scholarships. In fact, it's insanely easy.
Your argument about being able to go to LSU by being well-accomplished and out-of-state doesn't add up.
Scholarships always have limited funds, and if the choice is between a single out-of-state student versus two or three in-state students, even if they are not as accomplished, guess who is NOT going to get the scholarship.
Why? Because the out-of-state fees are going to greatly increase the cost of out-of-state merit scholarships.
This is what is known as the law of unintended consequences.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 4:27 am to OFWHAP
taf does not run the athletic department. the athletic department is run by the athletic director and his staff.
taf is a fund raising entity and a way to skirt state bid laws. therefore contracts can be negotiated and construction projects can get started quicker. taf simply builds and donates the projects to the athletic department. most large projects are financed with bonds that are paid off using tradition fund fees etc.
taf is a fund raising entity and a way to skirt state bid laws. therefore contracts can be negotiated and construction projects can get started quicker. taf simply builds and donates the projects to the athletic department. most large projects are financed with bonds that are paid off using tradition fund fees etc.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 4:32 am to LSUPEPPER
Who signs the checks for the athletic department, if you don't mind my asking?
Posted on 8/28/10 at 6:41 am to AFTiger
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No sure I agree that there's nothing really wrong with that
True, what I meant is that if that is what people want, then that is what will be.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 8:02 am to Tigertown in ATL
I love the "you don't pay taxes here" debate. With the beloved Homestead exemption in La.,less than half the people pay property taxes anyway.That is the root of the problem.I pay more motel tax each year doing business in La. than most of the locals pay in yearly property tax. The local venom towards your out of state brothers is shocking.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 8:06 am to LSU4ever15
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The local venom towards your out of state brothers is shocking.
This is what is disappointing to me.
Posted on 8/28/10 at 1:14 pm to OFWHAP
i'm sure they are electronically generated and they use a computer stamped check. I think your real question is who makes the decisions to hire or fire or do a project or not. that answer is the chancellor,president, and the almighty Board of Supervisors. remember this is louisiana and everyone wants to put in their 2 cents. I think it is called politics. When money is needed to fund projects they approach taf to see if it is feasible for them to raise the money vs. their available bonding capacity. these decisions are made by the taf board of directors.
Posted on 8/29/10 at 9:37 am to LSUMafia
So get rid of TAF like Vandy did...do you not think that TAF money is real money going to LSU? Do you even have a point? I don;t expect a hand out, I can afford it. It's just bad buss. for LSU to get rid of the program for the reasons I stated. I dont know whether UT or UGA have similar programs, but i know a lot of schools do.
Posted on 8/29/10 at 9:39 am to EZE Tiger Fan
As usual, your opinion of me is based on your ignorant racist political views, not this debate. 
Posted on 8/29/10 at 9:41 am to bayoubreeze
Now on this one you are mistaken, even at full out of state tuition LSU still cheaper than UCONN in state, LSU is a bargain out or in state
Posted on 8/29/10 at 11:12 am to DeeHorton
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LSU is a bargain out or in state
Honestly, it depends on where you live. LSU's in-state tuition (when you include all the fees) is roughly equivalent to NC State. When you consider the cost for OOS, NC State is clearly the better bargain.
Posted on 8/29/10 at 12:00 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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am mostly disappointed by the in state people on this board blasting us for being upset by it. Very surprised to be viewed like traitors. The level of bitterness is shocking.
Disagreeing is one thing. Calling us leeches, etc. etc. etc. is just plain sad.
I tell people about the great atmosphere there, the lifelong affinity with the university and the state, even if you didn't grow up there.
Agreed.
After I graduated from LSU, I lived and worked in Louisiana for 7 of the next 8 years (a girl took me away to New Mexico for a year, but that's another story).
When I moved (grudgingly) to Texas, it was because my employer told me I had to move from Lafayette, because my job would from then on be in Dallas. That was in 1985. I've since been transferred to Houston.
Would I rather live in Louisiana? Yep. Would I have looked forward to having my kids in the Louisiana public school system (up through HS)?
Nope. And I'm saying that as a Louisiana HS grad.
My two oldest (of 3) kids had the grades and ranking to go to University of Texas. With the Bengal Legacy scholarship, the cost at LSU was almost the same as them going to UTAustin.
They both chose UT because it is academically stronger than LSU.
My youngest is a Senior in HS, and is making his college choices. While he's not an "automatic admit" to UT, he was considering LSU, except that LSU doesn't offer the Major he wants.
Now with the Bengal Legacy scholarship opportunity off the table, there's no way I can convince him to head to LSU. He's cognizant of college costs, and of the benefits/rewards.
As some others have said, this'll make a difference.
Posted on 8/29/10 at 12:24 pm to deuce985
I think the tuition is way too low. It needs to be 25% higher for everyone.
Posted on 8/29/10 at 12:24 pm to LSUPEPPER
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Just want to post some info; according to lsu last spring enrollment is down to 18500+/-. mark emmeret did a lot of good things while he was here(saban,etc). emmeret was slowly raising the act/sat scores to get into lsu. during this time enrollment fell from 31500 to 18500. he wanted to make lsu the yale of the south and attract faculty and students from around the world.
enrollment is around 28,500 and I've heard that this year's freshman class is the biggest ever or at least bigger than recent classes
Posted on 8/30/10 at 2:02 pm to Tigerbait46
I live in Maryland and my son is still going to go to LSU. We will explore some academic scholarship options but I will say that this is a kick in the pants. Damn
Posted on 8/30/10 at 2:09 pm to LSUPEPPER
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so entrace (sic) requirements were lowered
Not true!
Posted on 7/28/11 at 11:02 am to jimlsu1
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We will explore some academic scholarship options but I will say that this is a kick in the pants. Damn
I'm just hearing about this (Germans) and found via Google - it's a kick in the gut I think for those who were about to enter LSU. The academic scholarships only go so far. I'm surprised they did not try to keep at least a part of the out of state waiver, or phase it out.
My niece graduates in TX in May with 28 ACT and very good grades and activities, and was offered a $5k per semester academic scholarship, leaving her to come up with $11k per semester. Tough to compete with TX in-state tuition. And yes, they left LA but had no choice (Poydras St. oil co. layoffs and you gotta eat).
LA needs to consolidate its higher ed - LSU-A, LSU-E, SUNO, and others should be merged, drop to JUCO status or be closed. That would free up a lot of resources to dedicate to 4-yr colleges and vo-tech schools. (Ask the LA companies that are hiring how hard it is to find qualified welders, pipefitters, etc.)
Posted on 7/28/11 at 11:26 am to CBDTiger
When the school/state budget gets healthier, I'd love to see this program return but I'm assuming that's pretty far-fetched. Oh well, I have plenty of time to save since my son is only 2.
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