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Note to Out of State Alums
Posted on 8/26/10 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 8/26/10 at 6:38 pm
Chancellor Martin has ended the Bengal Legacy Scholarship to children of Alumni who do not live in Louisiana (but pay in-state tuition at LSU). Guess what out of state Tiger Alums? All out of state children of Alums entering LSU after 2010 will have to pay out of state tuition.
What a jerk, this guy should resign. Talk about trying to alienate out of state Alums.
Martin's philosophy is summed up in the following quote: “It is the tradition of land-grant universities to be non-traditional,” written as part of a 2001 article titled "The Land-Grant University in the 21st Century,” published in the Journal of Agricultural and Applied Economics. He traced the history of the land-grant movement from the mid-1800s and concluded that “the fundamental land-grant principles of accessibility, practical as well as classical education, research and discovery in the public interest, and connectedness to all the people remain powerful and profound.”
I guess connectedness does not include out of state Alums.
Chancellor Martin, there is a village back in Minnesota who lost their idiot. Please go back!
What a jerk, this guy should resign. Talk about trying to alienate out of state Alums.
Martin's philosophy is summed up in the following quote: “It is the tradition of land-grant universities to be non-traditional,” written as part of a 2001 article titled "The Land-Grant University in the 21st Century,” published in the Journal of Agricultural and Applied Economics. He traced the history of the land-grant movement from the mid-1800s and concluded that “the fundamental land-grant principles of accessibility, practical as well as classical education, research and discovery in the public interest, and connectedness to all the people remain powerful and profound.”
I guess connectedness does not include out of state Alums.
Chancellor Martin, there is a village back in Minnesota who lost their idiot. Please go back!
Posted on 8/26/10 at 6:44 pm to randyb
Did he explain his rationale?
Posted on 8/26/10 at 6:45 pm to randyb
That is pretty shitty...
That is what happens when you're on a tight budget I guess.
That is what happens when you're on a tight budget I guess.
Posted on 8/26/10 at 6:50 pm to nosaj56
Martin talks about state funding declining but further down in his letter to Alummni he says the money from the Bengal Legacy will be used for other scholarship programs. A little contradiction.
Posted on 8/26/10 at 6:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Way to go guy. Let's send LSU back to being a second rate regional university.
Posted on 8/26/10 at 6:56 pm to Tigertown in ATL
quote:
Way to go guy. Let's send LSU back to being a second rate regional university
Martin said, "In addition, by utilizing the funds that were once dedicated to the Bengal Legacy award for other scholarship programs, LSU will be able to better serve top applicants and thus will be more competitive with other flafship universities around the nation."
Posted on 8/26/10 at 6:59 pm to randyb
quote:
further down in his letter to Alummni he says the money from the Bengal Legacy will be used for other scholarship programs.
If this is true, then I am even more disappointed... we were planning on that Legacy Scholarship!!
Posted on 8/26/10 at 7:00 pm to randyb
Hopefully this will be sorted out when I have a college bound child, I'd hate lose that benefit come decision time.
Granted, I'm not close to that situation at all, but I remember the option was there when I applied.
Granted, I'm not close to that situation at all, but I remember the option was there when I applied.
Posted on 8/26/10 at 7:02 pm to yankeeundercover
quote:
BATON ROUGE, LA (WAFB) - The state is once again asking LSU to come up with a plan to slice budgets. University officials believe doing so will cripple programs, jobs and ultimately, the state.
"We are already down the money we need to provide quality education and high quality experience," said LSU Spokesman Herb Vincent
In July, the university came up with a plan to respond to $46 million in possible cuts for the 2011-12 school year.
It laid out three levels of proposed cuts, including doing away with $5 million in scholarships and financial aid, $1.85 million in cuts to academic affairs for athletes, and an 18.5 percent increase in tuition among other things.
"These are traumatic cuts, draconian cuts," said Vincent.
The state is now asking the university to crunch numbers again and come up with a plan to cut another 38 percent of the budget, or $74 million.
"The fact that we're being asked to go through these exercises is disconcerting," added Vincent. He says it sends a scary message to faculty, staff and the 5,200 students who are joining the LSU family this fall. He's not exactly sure where the university will trim this time around, but administrators have no doubt if the plan is put into motion, it will change the face of the campus. "I can tell you it would look dramatically different," said Vincent.
Copyright 2010 WAFB. All rights reserved.
This post was edited on 8/26/10 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 8/26/10 at 7:03 pm to LSUmomma
This is the full copy of Martin's letter to Alumni Chapters.
To: LSU Alumni Chapters
From: Michael Martin, LSU Chancellor
Date: August 24, 2010
Re: Changes to LSU Scholarships
Dear LSU Alumni,
As some of LSU’s most loyal supporters, you are often at the forefront of promoting and advocating for our University. Through words and deeds you are always showing others what it truly means to be a Tiger and your enthusiasm often encourages young people from within your circles to attend LSU. For this, we are truly grateful and want to assist you in all such efforts to spread the word about our great University.
It is from this perspective that I am writing to inform you that there have been some recent changes in the LSU scholarship program. I want to make you aware of the changes and explain to you why they were made so that you will be well informed when speaking to prospective students and to the LSU faithful.
Undoubtedly, you are aware that LSU’s incoming freshman class gets better every year. The Fall 2009 freshman class had an average ACT score approaching a 26. Consequently, more and more students each year are qualifying for LSU scholarships and awards. While the quality of our students has improved in past years, state funding for LSU has declined. This reality has forced us to revisit our scholarship programs and initiate an 8-month detailed analysis examining the competitiveness of LSU scholarships in the marketplace.
Our findings led to a restructuring of scholarship packages at LSU to make us more competitive with our peer universities and to better serve our top applicants.
As part of this process, some of the scholarships and awards for nonresident students have changed. Perhaps the most notable change in nonresident awards is the elimination of the Bengal Legacy scholarship, which waived 75% of the nonresident fee for the children of LSU alumni who do not live in Louisiana.
While we certainly value our alumni and regret the discontinuation of the Bengal Legacy scholarship, our new scholarship offerings will provide a more consistent and financially stable program for the University. We are confident that many nonresident children of our alumni will qualify for assistance under the new structure.
In addition, by utilizing the funds that were once dedicated to the Bengal Legacy award for other scholarship programs, LSU will be able to better serve top applicants and thus will be more competitive with other flagship universities around the nation. Please note, however, that students currently attending the University on the Bengal Legacy award will not be affected; LSU will honor its commitment to these students.
The enclosed document will provide you with all of the details on our new scholarship programs for nonresident students.
Please know that we have spent a great deal of time and consideration shaping these scholarship changes, and please help us spread the word throughout your alumni chapter about the changes. Thank you again for all you do to support LSU and Geaux Tigers!
Sincerely,
Michael Martin
Chancellor
To: LSU Alumni Chapters
From: Michael Martin, LSU Chancellor
Date: August 24, 2010
Re: Changes to LSU Scholarships
Dear LSU Alumni,
As some of LSU’s most loyal supporters, you are often at the forefront of promoting and advocating for our University. Through words and deeds you are always showing others what it truly means to be a Tiger and your enthusiasm often encourages young people from within your circles to attend LSU. For this, we are truly grateful and want to assist you in all such efforts to spread the word about our great University.
It is from this perspective that I am writing to inform you that there have been some recent changes in the LSU scholarship program. I want to make you aware of the changes and explain to you why they were made so that you will be well informed when speaking to prospective students and to the LSU faithful.
Undoubtedly, you are aware that LSU’s incoming freshman class gets better every year. The Fall 2009 freshman class had an average ACT score approaching a 26. Consequently, more and more students each year are qualifying for LSU scholarships and awards. While the quality of our students has improved in past years, state funding for LSU has declined. This reality has forced us to revisit our scholarship programs and initiate an 8-month detailed analysis examining the competitiveness of LSU scholarships in the marketplace.
Our findings led to a restructuring of scholarship packages at LSU to make us more competitive with our peer universities and to better serve our top applicants.
As part of this process, some of the scholarships and awards for nonresident students have changed. Perhaps the most notable change in nonresident awards is the elimination of the Bengal Legacy scholarship, which waived 75% of the nonresident fee for the children of LSU alumni who do not live in Louisiana.
While we certainly value our alumni and regret the discontinuation of the Bengal Legacy scholarship, our new scholarship offerings will provide a more consistent and financially stable program for the University. We are confident that many nonresident children of our alumni will qualify for assistance under the new structure.
In addition, by utilizing the funds that were once dedicated to the Bengal Legacy award for other scholarship programs, LSU will be able to better serve top applicants and thus will be more competitive with other flagship universities around the nation. Please note, however, that students currently attending the University on the Bengal Legacy award will not be affected; LSU will honor its commitment to these students.
The enclosed document will provide you with all of the details on our new scholarship programs for nonresident students.
Please know that we have spent a great deal of time and consideration shaping these scholarship changes, and please help us spread the word throughout your alumni chapter about the changes. Thank you again for all you do to support LSU and Geaux Tigers!
Sincerely,
Michael Martin
Chancellor
Posted on 8/26/10 at 7:03 pm to randyb
My daughter just finished at LSU under this program. It was a big help. Btw, it was a savings of 75% of the out of state fees.
Posted on 8/26/10 at 7:04 pm to yankeeundercover
I just don't want the out of state tuition to be the main reason we aren't able to send our daughter where she wants to be and where we have ALWAYS wanted her to go! She's been raised to go to LSU, and knowing that there wouldn't be extra out of state costs because her dad is an alum has always given us/her a sense that's where she's welcome and wanted.
This is disappointing to say the least.....
This is disappointing to say the least.....
Posted on 8/26/10 at 7:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
IMO this is a very bad thing
This!
I chose a traditional college savings for my kids in-case they considered LSU (my wife and I are alumni). Now, I will transfer to this (as a Texas resident):
LINK
Posted on 8/26/10 at 7:08 pm to LSUmomma
quote:
I just don't want the out of state tuition to be the main reason we aren't able to send our daughter where she wants to be and where we have ALWAYS wanted her to go! She's been raised to go to LSU, and knowing that there wouldn't be extra out of state costs because her dad is an alum has always given us/her a sense that's where she's welcome and wanted.
Ditto
Posted on 8/26/10 at 7:10 pm to randyb
Why should you give alums' kids in-state tuition if they decided to leave the state? You aren't putting tax money or consistent revenue into the state, so why should you get the benefits.
Sounds like a bunch of whiners who left the state to get paid and now want to get a discount.
I am glad he fixed this shite.
Sounds like a bunch of whiners who left the state to get paid and now want to get a discount.
I am glad he fixed this shite.
This post was edited on 8/26/10 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 8/26/10 at 7:11 pm to randyb
quote:
Way to go guy. Let's send LSU back to being a second rate regional university
Martin said, "In addition, by utilizing the funds that were once dedicated to the Bengal Legacy award for other scholarship programs, LSU will be able to better serve top applicants and thus will be more competitive with other flafship universities around the nation."
B.S.
1. He is a liar. Should go work in Washington.
2. I love LSU, but if he thinks this is the way to compete with Texas, Michigan, Virginia, etc. he is a dunce.
3. Since he not a dunce, see #1.
Posted on 8/26/10 at 7:12 pm to Tigertown in ATL
Given the close to $100 million cut from the LSU System budget I don't think the school has much of a choice.
Posted on 8/26/10 at 7:15 pm to LSUmomma
We all should be agree with the state, not the university. For the past 2-3 years the state has told the public schools & universities to cut their budgets. This all came to be because after the storm, Louisiana had a surplus of money due to all the contruction and influx in cash on the gulf coast. This was a temporary influx and state politions started more social programs and spending that is now protected from cuts by the state constitution. Now that there is no more cash coming in, the state can only cut health care and education budgets. That is why year after year, state colleges are having to cut their budgets.
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