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re: More Shocking 2nd year Season (QB)
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:41 am to SprintFun
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:41 am to SprintFun
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How does Flacco fit into this discussion?
He's better than both Henne and Ryan IMO. Won 2 playoff games as a rookie, and has had a positive TD:INT ratio in both of his years.
It helps him to have had a top 3 defense in both years, though. He'll have a great career.
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Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:42 am to Pilot Tiger
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He was very inconsistent
braylon edwards? in college? not really
he was beast mode
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Big time schools with pro style offenses are going to have playmaker WR's.
but i mean literally
he'd throw it up to edwards his freshman season and edwards would go up and get it. if they couldn't rely on that, they didn't pass it that well. mostly real short shite
the same pattern emerged with manningham, but it was the tedd ginn specialtiy fly route
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:43 am to Boh
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He's better than both Henne and Ryan IMO.
i think he is, and will be. now he's got a legit #1 WR now to go with his great RB (which ryan had his rookie year)
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
Marino's rookie stats are pretty good considering attempts and starts and all. He curbstomped the league his second year.
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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now he's got a legit #1 WR now to go with his great RB (which ryan had his rookie year)
I think the Ravens have a very realistic shot to make it to the Super Bowl this year.
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:ESPECIALLY in college. Dude dropped a ton of passes. Worse than Lafell. He actually improved on it in the NFL
braylon edwards? in college? not really
Posted on 8/19/10 at 8:50 am to Boh
the ravens need CBs...badly
Posted on 8/19/10 at 9:05 am to Pilot Tiger
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ESPECIALLY in college. Dude dropped a ton of passes. Worse than Lafell. He actually improved on it in the NFL
I remember it being the opposite - he regressed in the pros.
Posted on 8/19/10 at 9:08 am to SprintFun
i agree
braylon was one of those "unstoppable" WRs
braylon was one of those "unstoppable" WRs
Posted on 8/19/10 at 9:10 am to SlowFlowPro
y'all are remembering it wrong
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I remember very vividly. I followed his career in college. I remember seeing him drop the ball a ton.
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ETA: a good friend of mine is a huge Michigan fan and I always made fun of him when we'd watch games and he would drop balls
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He also possess big hands, and has the ability to make the spectacular catches, but drops plagued him much of his college career.
I remember very vividly. I followed his career in college. I remember seeing him drop the ball a ton.
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NEGATIVES: Not always mentally on top of his game, loses focus or takes his eye off the ball.
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Weaknesses: Will drop a lot of catchable balls as he seems to lose concentration and focus at times..
ETA: a good friend of mine is a huge Michigan fan and I always made fun of him when we'd watch games and he would drop balls
This post was edited on 8/19/10 at 9:14 am
Posted on 8/19/10 at 9:15 am to SprintFun
Henne cost them the '05 Rose Bowl.
Posted on 8/19/10 at 9:19 am to Ghazi
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Henne cost them the '05 Rose Bowl.
Sure it wasn't the defense that let Vince drag his nuts all over them?
Posted on 8/19/10 at 9:30 am to SprintFun
there wasn't much D played in that game 
Posted on 8/19/10 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Last night on Hard Knocks Mary Schottenheimer said if you can get a 2nd year QB to perform exactly the same as he did his rookie year, then you've made major progress.
Most coaches expect 2nd year QB's to perform the same or a little worse because they give them much more slack and responsibilities.
Most coaches expect 2nd year QB's to perform the same or a little worse because they give them much more slack and responsibilities.
Posted on 8/19/10 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Henne always had a lot of physical talent and an NFL arm. He just seemed a bit mentally soft, which was a Lloyd Carr coaching problem more than anything. I don't think it's really that big of a shock that he's preformed pretty well in the pros
This post was edited on 8/19/10 at 9:51 am
Posted on 8/19/10 at 9:50 am to usc6158
I always thought Henne would be a good NFL qb. He's big and has a cannon. His real coming out party was the bowl game with Florida. They had no answer for Henne that day.
Ill put him and Ryan in a dead heat so far. Personally Ive got Flacco behind them. He plays on a great team and doesnt turn it over much but I say put him as starter on a poor team and he is below average. JMO
Ill put him and Ryan in a dead heat so far. Personally Ive got Flacco behind them. He plays on a great team and doesnt turn it over much but I say put him as starter on a poor team and he is below average. JMO
Posted on 8/19/10 at 9:54 am to usc6158
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He just seemed a bit mentally soft,
yup
Posted on 8/19/10 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
It's not like that wasn't a common problem for Michigan teams under Lloyd though. It seems like more a coaching issue than a Henne issue
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