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Baton Rouge Money Managers: Breaking the mold

Posted on 8/11/10 at 11:20 am
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 11:20 am
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Highlights: Diversification is for suckers, I don’t believe in buy low and sell high, and I have a fiery passion in my loins for Steve Jobs.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 12:41 pm to
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I have a fiery passion in my loins for Steve Jobs.


This is what will break the pin.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26705 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 2:05 pm to
Maybe if Apple has a 25% dip or so Scoop will go away.
Posted by The_Pistol
Member since Dec 2003
2519 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 3:24 pm to
Is it possible that virtually all money managers really have no better idea how to make money in the market than your average person with a subscription to the Wall St. Journal?

I'm starting to think that the only worthwhile money manager out there is the guy with political connections who can accurately predict where Uncle Sam is going to throw his next $1B.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 3:31 pm to
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Is it possible that virtually all money managers really have no better idea how to make money in the market than your average person with a subscription to the Wall St. Journal?


The big dogs definitely have their shite together and are worth the money, but 99.9% of the population don't have direct access to them.

Bridgewater drops mad knowledge into my inbox every morning before 10 AM. This, plus the success of their "pure alpha" fund leads me to believe that they, in fact, systematically beat the shite out of the market.
Posted by The_Pistol
Member since Dec 2003
2519 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 3:36 pm to
You mean the big dogs like the geniuses at LTCM?

Btw...never heard of Bridgewater. I'll look into 'em.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 3:38 pm to
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You mean the big dogs like the geniuses at LTCM?


For every LTCM, there is a Klarman.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 4:50 pm to
I'm just going to go ahead and say that this guy reminds me of your typical sell-side talking-head on CNCB 30x a day. I am pretty much 100% in disagreement with everything he said in terms of my outlook and investing philosophy. BW is one of [the?] largest hedge funds in the world, fwiw. They probably essentially steal money from this guy on the reg.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:03 pm to
Guy seems like one of the last people in the world I'd give my money to. I do agree with his views on diversification though.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:09 pm to
Yeah that part I do agree with.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133486 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:38 pm to
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Guy seems like one of the last people in the world I'd give my money to.
I know Andy Anderson personally. You are very astute, RSBR.....
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:47 pm to
The cheap/cheeseball tie gave it away. And this was the icing on the cake.

WHEN DO YOU DUMP A STOCK?

quote:

Usually, if the earnings disappoint. We have to bite our nails every earnings season.


WHAT????????????????????????????????

You bite your nails w/ regards to my portfolio?!?!?!?!?!?


This post was edited on 8/11/10 at 5:47 pm
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 5:54 pm to
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Is it possible that virtually all money managers really have no better idea how to make money in the market than your average person with a subscription to the Wall St. Journal?


If you're talking about stocks, sort of. They aren't any better at picking them than the average Joe, but they can trade less expensively and they have a better idea of how to diversify more effectively. But I don't think they pick winners any better than average. Hell, most individuals think that's all there is to it.

Outside stocks, it may be a different story depending on the market. And if you really are a stock insider you can make money. But the reality is that most "insiders" don't know as much as they think they do, nor is it risk-free.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 7:07 pm to
"We don’t want any problems. We only invest in companies with zero problems."

Does anyone know any of these?
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 8/11/10 at 7:16 pm to
No, I don't. But if you find a company with zero problems, I'd assume there'd be no reason to be "biting your nails" come earnings time.
Posted by Skert Bitman
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
35 posts
Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:13 am to
What amazes me the most about the incompetence of Anderson is his misinterpretation of what professor Nassim's theory of the "black swan" is really about.

You cannot predict a "black swan" event. They are unforeseen events in which the consequences are unknown until they have past.

In this case, I would argue Andy Anderson is highly vulnerable to the "black swan" events in the marketplace today. And by investing with Andy, you are putting you and your money in serious jeopardy.

Nassim Taleb explains it very simply with the turkey experiment. The turkey, in this case Andy Anderson, doesn't realize he has had his head cut off on the day of thanksgiving. The butcher on the other hand, the white swan, was not affected by this tragic scenario.

In regards to Andy's investment approach, he is putting his clients money in the cage of the turkey, and the butcher, sovereign debt, is on his way with the clever.

In sum, remain robust and avoid fragility by avoiding any investment with Andy Anderson.

This post was edited on 8/12/10 at 11:15 am
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:18 am to
I have not read Black Swan. But, I know a lot about Buffett. His use of "Black Swan" and "Buffett" seemed more cliche' than academic.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26705 posts
Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:20 am to
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7. Why do you say we’re in the early stages of a bull market?

We’re following five indexes. The first one is the Nasdaq. We have to get at least three out of five of these above the lower moving average, and the lower moving average has to turn up. It really hasn’t turned up yet, but it’s moving sideways, and we know as long as it holds up around here [points to a chart on his iMac], it’s going to turn up. We also look at the Merrill Lynch technology stocks. Technology stocks are the key to this country. When business spending picks up, they’re buying computers. Here’s the New York composite. Here are the small-cap stocks. Here’s the S&P 500. It looks like the tides are coming in


Wow this guy is brilliant.

Posted by Skert Bitman
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
35 posts
Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:24 am to
You are exactly right. Anderson has been brilliant in his ability to market himself this way.

It is unfortunate and I would deem fraudulent at the minimum.

Investors beware...
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26705 posts
Posted on 8/12/10 at 11:26 am to
time to ban anything named A. Anderson from the financial world.
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