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Anyone know how the CJ accident occurred?
Posted on 6/27/10 at 6:02 am
Posted on 6/27/10 at 6:02 am
sorry if its been covered (in the stickied post above), but I was just wondering if there was any details as to how it happened?
This post was edited on 6/27/10 at 6:06 am
Posted on 6/27/10 at 6:19 am to StormTiger
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The Associated Press reported that the accident occurred after Jones turned his wheel quickly while trying to get off the streetcar tracks on Carrollton Avenuenear Toulouse Street, causing the vehicle to flip. The accident took place around 6:15 a.m., according to an LSU statement and a report filed by the New Orleans Fire Department. chad_jones_baseball.jpgEliot Kamenitz/The Times-Picayune archiveFormer LSU standout Chad Jones won a national championship with the baseball and football teams in his short college career. Officer Shereese Harper, New Orleans Police Department spokeswoman, said Jones was driving toward Canal Street and "for reasons unknown," his car lost control and hit a pole. Harper said Jones was cited for careless operation, and that toxicology tests were being administered to see if alcohol was a factor. Newsday reported that the NOPD does not believe alcohol or drugs were a factor in the crash.
Posted on 6/27/10 at 10:29 am to DEG
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Harper said Jones was cited for careless operation
Well, that will teach him a lesson!, as if he's not suffering enough. way to go NOPD!
Posted on 6/27/10 at 10:56 am to BGSB
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as if he's not suffering enough. way to go NOPD!
way to rub salt in the wounds. istr tiger didnt get any ticket after his 'incident'
Posted on 6/27/10 at 11:15 am to BGSB
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way to go NOPD!
This is standard procedure in any police department in the country. It is not a "punishment", but it is how things work with insurance, etc.
Posted on 6/27/10 at 11:31 am to DEG
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Harper said Jones was cited for careless operation,
That's rachel!!!!
Posted on 6/27/10 at 11:31 am to notiger1997
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This is standard procedure in any police department in the country. It is not a "punishment", but it is how things work with insurance, etc.
In other words, its a money racket.
Posted on 6/27/10 at 11:35 am to Cornholio
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its a money racket.
Ok.
Posted on 6/27/10 at 12:46 pm to BGSB
nopd is a total joke but this is not the reason why. he would be ticketed in most cities.
Posted on 6/27/10 at 12:48 pm to BGSB
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Well, that will teach him a lesson!, as if he's not suffering enough. way to go NOPD!
So if he came out fine, he shouldnt have been charged either?
Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:16 pm to LSUGOLFER
It's the law morons! If there is a wreck, there must be a cause. And if it is a single car accident, fault of operation goes to the driver. Liability always must be established for MANY reasons.
I pray all toxicology will be negative, or else they will be forced to go another route with the charges which includes manslaughter in wrecks where someone is killed....I know the others were uninjured, so I'd like to know what the additional charges might be if he were to fail the tox.
I pray all toxicology will be negative, or else they will be forced to go another route with the charges which includes manslaughter in wrecks where someone is killed....I know the others were uninjured, so I'd like to know what the additional charges might be if he were to fail the tox.
Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:23 pm to StormTiger
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IT says on ESPN that he turned his wheel abruptly to get off of the streetcar tracks. Also that it took the first responders 20 minutes to cut him out of his vehicle.
IT says on ESPN that he turned his wheel abruptly to get off of the streetcar tracks. Also that it took the first responders 20 minutes to cut him out of his vehicle.
Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:24 pm to the LSUSaint
Kinda of just a freak accident it seems
Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:27 pm to BGSB
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Well, that will teach him a lesson!, as if he's not suffering enough. way to go NOPD!
Unfortunately, its the law.
Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:30 pm to Cornholio
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In other words, its a money racket.
Many of our traffic laws and citations that result from it are simply a "money racket" and are less concerned with public safety as they are collecting funds. But many departments do this as standard procedure after an accident.
Posted on 6/27/10 at 1:33 pm to TigerTatorTots
Yea, my sister got hit by a car while she was on her bike and had to go to the hospital and she got a ticket cuz it was her fault.
Posted on 6/27/10 at 3:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
While it is "standard procedure" to issue a ticket to the offending party, a law enforcement officer/prosecuting attorney has absolute discretion in instituting criminal proceedings including issuing or prosecuting a ticket. All funds collected from moving violations in the state generally go to indigent defense, i.e. when a defendant is too poor to afford an attorney for his own defense. Orleans Parish is somewhat different especially after the Louisiana Supreme Court declared that a portion of their indigent defender funding scheme rendered presumptively ineffective assistance of counsel.
In other words, it is not necessarily the law, it is a policy implemented by people given discretion to enforce the law. It is a money racket but the money goes to defend those accused of a crime, who have a constitutional right to effective assistance from legal counsel. Hopefully, the tox-screen comes back negative and they will choose not to prosecute (nolo pros.) the moving violation and wish him well in his recovery. No one in their right mind would want to prosecute a fellow who is badly injured for a minor moving violation.
In other words, it is not necessarily the law, it is a policy implemented by people given discretion to enforce the law. It is a money racket but the money goes to defend those accused of a crime, who have a constitutional right to effective assistance from legal counsel. Hopefully, the tox-screen comes back negative and they will choose not to prosecute (nolo pros.) the moving violation and wish him well in his recovery. No one in their right mind would want to prosecute a fellow who is badly injured for a minor moving violation.
This post was edited on 6/27/10 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 6/27/10 at 3:24 pm to DEG
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The Associated Press reported that the accident occurred after Jones turned his wheel quickly while trying to get off the streetcar tracks on Carrollton Avenuenear Toulouse Street, causing the vehicle to flip.
So he was driving on the streetcar tracks when he turned quickly to get off onto the normal street, but hit a pole.
Am I understanding this correctly?
He was actually driving on the streetcar tracks as if his range rover was a streetcar, he wasnt just crossing the tracks?
Posted on 6/27/10 at 4:05 pm to berryNation
I think the tracks run the same direction as the road there. So that being said, I see the only known FACTS as:
* He turned the vehicle sharply
* He was driving a recently purchased 2010 Range Rover.
There are a few things which are POSSIBLE contributing factors (and I'm only going to speculate on the road and vehicle - not the driver):
* If there were some sort of rut along the tracks (a pothole in formation) and his tire dropped into it - turning sharply may have caused a front tire to blow out and cause a vehicle with a high center of gravity to roll.
* Not sure if the model Rover he was driving has variable suspension settings (mine does - but it's about ten years old). The vehicle height can be set manually and lets just say there are some "quirks" in its operation (basically FAR too many variables involving 3 glyph-labeled buttons and 4-5 "idiot lights" for the average driver - I am the type who tends to read the owner's manual on anything electronic and I referred to it early and often).
I found this image of the traction/suspension controls for a 2010 Range Rover HSE...
...to illustrate my point.
If he was driving with the vehicle on the "high water" setting - This would have raised the vehicle's center of gravity even higher and increased not only the possibility but the severity of the accident.
* He turned the vehicle sharply
* He was driving a recently purchased 2010 Range Rover.
There are a few things which are POSSIBLE contributing factors (and I'm only going to speculate on the road and vehicle - not the driver):
* If there were some sort of rut along the tracks (a pothole in formation) and his tire dropped into it - turning sharply may have caused a front tire to blow out and cause a vehicle with a high center of gravity to roll.
* Not sure if the model Rover he was driving has variable suspension settings (mine does - but it's about ten years old). The vehicle height can be set manually and lets just say there are some "quirks" in its operation (basically FAR too many variables involving 3 glyph-labeled buttons and 4-5 "idiot lights" for the average driver - I am the type who tends to read the owner's manual on anything electronic and I referred to it early and often).
I found this image of the traction/suspension controls for a 2010 Range Rover HSE...
...to illustrate my point.
If he was driving with the vehicle on the "high water" setting - This would have raised the vehicle's center of gravity even higher and increased not only the possibility but the severity of the accident.
Posted on 6/27/10 at 4:15 pm to rabend1
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No one in their right mind would want to prosecute a fellow who is badly injured for a minor moving violation.
It's a fine... You pay the fine, you move on with your life.
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