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"Why can't they find a way to plug this thing?"

Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:00 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:00 pm
Please note that I did not write this.

It was sent to me in an email...

I just wanted to share this with you.

MY NAME IS NOT DAN





Hello Family, Friends & Associates,

I received the following face book question from a close friend and I thought the rest of you might be interested in my response.
____________________________________________________________________________

Original Question: Hi Dan! I'm interested to hear your view on the oil spill...why can't they find a way to plug this thing?
____________________________________________________________________________

Answer:

The problem is BP Oil, they have the worst safety and environmental record of any major oil company in the United States. Of the major violations that the EPA has issued in the last 3 years, 97% of them were to BP, An explosion at the BP Texas city facility in 2005 killed 15 people and injured 150 people of which I personally knew two. BP was convicted of felony actions and fined $87 million dollars, Link. They have had several major oil spills on their portion of the Alaskan North Slope drilling operations and have also been convicted of felony criminal violations,Link.

Prior to the blow out, the Federal government was considering blocking BP from all Federal contracts due to their poor safety and environmental record, Link. The negotiations have been placed on hold pending the investigation into what happened on the gulf explosion.

As you are aware, I do remaining life evaluations, safety and performance audits in refineries and have worked for most of the major oil companies (Chevron, Shell, Valero, Hess, Sunoco etc). I have given up trying to work for BP because they never can get the money approved, ie they spend no money on maintenance or safety.

The oil spill in the gulf was caused by two really cheap blowout preventer (BOP) valves. These valves are located on the drill pipe as it exits the ocean floor bed a mile down. The valves are supposed to sense pressure surges in the drill pipe and close off the pipe to prevent the pressure surge from getting to the drilling rig. These valves are supposed to be “fail safe” which means that if the valves loose contact with the surface, they should have closed. In this case both the manual and automatic kill switches did not work and the drill pipe over pressurized, estimated at 1,400 psi, and the explosion resulted.

Now the problem is that we have oil at approximately 1,400 psi coming out of the remnants of the drill pipe at 5,000 barrels/day and it is located a mile down at the bottom of the ocean. At this pressure and depth doing anything is extremely difficult as it is much too deep for human divers. As a result, all work must be done by remote operated robots which severely limit the options. The attempts so far have been unsuccessful and it is anticipated that the current attempt to pump sealing cement into the drill pipe, the top kill option, will also fail. The sealant is not designed to seal a pipe at this pressure. The best hope we have is a relief pipe that is being drilled down to intersect the existing pipe. However, this will probably not be completed until August.

Bottom line, the company with the worst safety / environmental record in the United States got caught AGAIN putting profit before safety or the environment. BP always promises to clean up their act after each incident, however we now see that it is just lips service. BP should pay dearly for their malpractice and I hope they are driven out of business.

I hope this gives you some insight into this terrible incident and if you have any other questions, please let me know.

Dan

Edited By admin to remove guys full name and email address.
This post was edited on 5/28/10 at 9:30 am
Posted by eye65
Member since Aug 2009
987 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:04 pm to
your name is on here...not sure if you meant for that....
Posted by LSUis0ver9000
Member since Apr 2010
2438 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:05 pm to
cliff notes?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:05 pm to
That isnt me, it was sent to me.
Posted by eye65
Member since Aug 2009
987 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:05 pm to
oh cool....just letting you know if you copied it quick....don't want people on here getting in trouble!
Posted by b rod lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4903 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:06 pm to

Can you fill in the actual links used in the response? I'm interested in reading them. TIA.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109449 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

just letting you know if you copied it quick....don't want people on here getting in trouble!


But, you don't care about Dan?
Posted by eye65
Member since Aug 2009
987 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:09 pm to
nope....that's his problem.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10713 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

The oil spill in the gulf was caused by two really cheap blowout preventer (BOP) valves. These valves are located on the drill pipe as it exits the ocean floor bed a mile down. The valves are supposed to sense pressure surges in the drill pipe and close off the pipe to prevent the pressure surge from getting to the drilling rig. These valves are supposed to be “fail safe” which means that if the valves loose contact with the surface, they should have closed. In this case both the manual and automatic kill switches did not work and the drill pipe over pressurized, estimated at 1,400 psi, and the explosion resulted.


This is total bullshite! The guys knows nothing about drilling he is just running off his mouth trying to sound like he knows something.

When did Cameron BOPs become cheap bop valves? They are not located on drill pipe and drill pipe is rated over 10,000psi.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

The oil spill in the gulf was caused by two really cheap blowout preventer (BOP) valves. These valves are located on the drill pipe as it exits the ocean floor bed a mile down. The valves are supposed to sense pressure surges in the drill pipe and close off the pipe to prevent the pressure surge from getting to the drilling rig. These valves are supposed to be “fail safe” which means that if the valves loose contact with the surface, they should have closed. In this case both the manual and automatic kill switches did not work and the drill pipe over pressurized, estimated at 1,400 psi, and the explosion resulted.


I think this is probably part of the problem but certainly not the full extent. You should probably let the investigations unfold untill you assign full blame.

Hopefully, after the well is PA'd, the BOP will be reteived and a full forensics will determine the cause of the failure to stop well flow.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:17 pm to
Whoa! I didn't write this. This was emailed to me. I just wanted to share what this idiot was spewing.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Whoa! I didn't write this. This was emailed to me. I just wanted to share what this idiot was spewing.


Your email starts off with:

quote:

Hello Family, Friends & Associates,

I received the following face book question from a close friend and I thought the rest of you might be interested in my response.


You don't indicate anywhere in the OP that you are passing on what someone else wrote.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10713 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 4:21 pm to
Another thing that makes this sound bogus is he doesn't even mention the Thunderhorse as one of BP's major frick ups. Do they know BP almost sank a billion dollar production and drilling semi?
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

1,400 psi coming out of the remnants of the drill pipe at 5,000 barrels/day


WRONG. The hydrostatic pressure at the sea floor is at leat 2300 psi so the well has to have a ftp of greater than that. Given the rate of flow at 20-40k barrels a day the ftp would be around 8000-18000 psi.
Posted by MC123
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2042 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 7:38 pm to
ok so clearly this guy knows little to nothing about offshore drilling...but if you remove the paragraphs with speculation about this disaster:

quote:

The problem is BP Oil, they have the worst safety and environmental record of any major oil company in the United States. Of the major violations that the EPA has issued in the last 3 years, 97% of them were to BP, An explosion at the BP Texas city facility in 2005 killed 15 people and injured 150 people of which I personally knew two. BP was convicted of felony actions and fined $87 million dollars, Link. They have had several major oil spills on their portion of the Alaskan North Slope drilling operations and have also been convicted of felony criminal violations,Link.

Prior to the blow out, the Federal government was considering blocking BP from all Federal contracts due to their poor safety and environmental record, Link. The negotiations have been placed on hold pending the investigation into what happened on the gulf explosion.

As you are aware, I do remaining life evaluations, safety and performance audits in refineries and have worked for most of the major oil companies (Chevron, Shell, Valero, Hess, Sunoco etc). I have given up trying to work for BP because they never can get the money approved, ie they spend no money on maintenance or safety.

<remove speculation paragraphs>

Bottom line, the company with the worst safety / environmental record in the United States got caught AGAIN putting profit before safety or the environment. BP always promises to clean up their act after each incident, however we now see that it is just lips service. BP should pay dearly for their malpractice and I hope they are driven out of business.

I hope this gives you some insight into this terrible incident and if you have any other questions, please let me know.

Dan


the majority of the rest of the email is factual, and very telling. most people don't realize how awful BP's record has been, and that is what you should take from this email.

with that said, BP was charged with felonies in the previous 2 major accidents, and I tend to believe that they will with this one as well IMHO.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10713 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:36 am to
quote:

the majority of the rest of the email is factual, and very telling. most people don't realize how awful BP's record has been, and that is what you should take from this email.


Your right and this is nothing new. I do beleive BP made mistakes but not on the same level as the past ones. BP operated just like ever other company in the world operates they just got caught in a shite storm of things going wrong.

I don't care what you read or what the news media feeds you the drilling industry as a whole is a very safe industry compared to other industries. No one wants to burn down and sink a 700 million dollar drilling rig making 600 thousand a day.


Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40396 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 8:40 am to
I love how everyone is an expert on the drilling industry all of a sudden. Whoever the OP is he doesn't know much about drilling.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Whoever the OP is he doesn't know much about drilling.


Hey dumbfrick, re-read the OP, I DID NOT WRITE IT!!!!. It was sent to me in an email.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40396 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

Hey dumbfrick, re-read the OP, I DID NOT WRITE IT!!!!. It was sent to me in an email.


Are you the original poster on whatever board this came from or does your reading comprehension just suck?
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