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Transocean had BOP 'issue' on India rig

Posted on 5/18/10 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Oyster
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 1:38 pm
Transocean had BOP 'issue' on India rig

Havent seen this posted here yet. If its Germans just call me emperor hirohito.
This post was edited on 5/18/10 at 2:56 pm
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 2:35 pm to
We shouldn't allow these pricks to do business in the US any longer. They moved out of the states to Sweden to avoid paying taxes. Recently they came out saying they were going to give tax money spent to those in need, i.e. fisherman, shrimpers, oystermen etc. They barely pay any taxes!!! then they file a motion to cap their financial burden at 27mm based on a 100 plus year maritime law that is not even applicable any longer and ask for it to be heard in a Houston court becuase they feel the favoritism will be in their favor.

These pricks just keeps showing their true colors and don't give a rats arse about anything that is going on much less those who died, are financial hurting or our environment. I say kick em out the gulf for good.
This post was edited on 5/18/10 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 2:46 pm to


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Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 2:46 pm to
Is there any record of a BOP being used and actually working? The 2nd largest oil spill in history was due to the BOP not being able to shut the pipe.
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 2:49 pm to
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Is there any record of a BOP being used and actually working? The 2nd largest oil spill in history was due to the BOP not being able to shut the pipe.

Yes, subsea BOP's are functioned, pressure tested, and used to contain pressure pretty everyday all around the world. furthermore, BOP's have been used in emergency situations -- like rigs being pushed off location by rough weather or a fire at surface -- many times over the history of subsea drilling as well.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 2:56 pm to
Fixed the link...sorry about that.
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

We shouldn't allow these pricks to do business in the US any longer. They moved out of the states to Sweden to avoid paying taxes. Recently they came out saying they were going to give tax money spent to those in need, i.e. fisherman, shrimpers, oystermen etc. They barely pay any taxes!!! then they file a motion to cap their financial burden at 27mm based on a 100 plus year maritime law that is not even applicable any longer and ask for it to be heard in a Houston court becuase they feel the favoritism will be in their favor.

These pricks just keeps showing their true colors and don't give a rats arse about anything that is going on much less those who died, are financial hurting or our environment. I say kick em out the gulf for good.

first of all, the link in the original post didn't even go to the article. when you find the article, you'll see that the article mentions "an issue". it does not say what happened. that could be literally anything from the relatively common to something very elaborate.

furthermore, the vast majority of TOI's employees are Americans -- specifically guys from Mississippi and Louisiana. and their global headquarters are here in houston.

to say that TOI does not care about the environment or any of the people effected by this is just completely ludicrous. it is an emotional situation, and i understand people are angry. hell, i'm angry. i work in this industry and have to live w/ the consequences. i'm from below the Intracoastal and the people of my hometown will have to live w/ the consequences. but to paint w/ that broad of a brush is uncalled for.

Posted by purpleNgoldsaint
Houma Louisiana
Member since Jun 2009
2470 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

Is there any record of a BOP being used and actually working? The 2nd largest oil spill in history was due to the BOP not being able to shut the pipe.




Did any of you people that are saying stupid shite like this even know what a BOP was before this happened??? Yes BOP's have worked before and saved many lives... I'm officially asking people to keep their stupid comments to themselves if they do not know what the hell they are talking about.
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17553 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:02 pm to
I am just going off what TOI has been doing thusfar. Any broad stroke sentiment is soley based on their actions to date. I don't want any LA or MS folks to lose work but this company is showing that it is soley worried about their bottom line than fixing the problem. And yes, I am in the oil and gas industry so this is not someone on the outside looking in.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:02 pm to
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purpleNgoldsaint


I don't know what your problem is Mr. Highnmighty, but I was asking an honest question. The statement I made was a fact, so what stupid comment are you referring to?
Posted by purpleNgoldsaint
Houma Louisiana
Member since Jun 2009
2470 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

Is there any record of a BOP being used and actually working?


If this was an honest question then I take back what I said... If it was a smart arse question then I stand by what I said.
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17553 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:04 pm to
I think BOPs worked alot during Katrina if I am not mistaken.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20511 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:07 pm to
+ 1000, if you dont know the industry your not getting a break anymore, there is a ton if info on this just go back to the first couple of pages and read. Or just look up oilfieldtigers posts and read them. Im tired of these ignorant posts form ppl who have no idea what we do or how we do it.
Posted by purpleNgoldsaint
Houma Louisiana
Member since Jun 2009
2470 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:07 pm to
You can't just blame machinery.... All of these pieces of equipment are build, serviced, operated by people. Things like this happen because people did or didnt do something.
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17553 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:07 pm to
Like modifying the BOP....
Posted by purpleNgoldsaint
Houma Louisiana
Member since Jun 2009
2470 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Like modifying the BOP....


Or not testing them properly or not testing them at all...
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8296 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

I am just going off what TOI has been doing thusfar. Any broad stroke sentiment is soley based on their actions to date. I don't want any LA or MS folks to lose work but this company is showing that it is soley worried about their bottom line than fixing the problem. And yes, I am in the oil and gas industry so this is not someone on the outside looking in.


I admittedly know jack about the subject but I read/saw a few days ago that the rig that sank was flying a Solomon Islands flag and was operating under their regulations. I don't know if this happened in International Waters but I would think that something that could be as potentially hazardous as this that they would force them to operate under US regs if they could.
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

Like modifying the BOP....

again, the only specific BOP modification i have seen is flipping the bottom set of pipe rams to make them test rams. This is a common practise, as pipe rams are only designed to hold pressure from below, so you flip them upside down so you can use them instead of running a test plug.

this specific modification would have had NOTHING to do w/ the blind shear functionality, nor would any of the annular damage referenced during the 60 Minutes piece. Furthermore, the fact that a set of test rams were in the bottom ram position would be well known to everyone involved in the drilling operation at TOI, BP, and the MMS.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:29 pm to
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They moved out of the states to Sweden to avoid paying taxes.


They moved from the Caymen Islands to Switzerland in Dec. '08.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

I admittedly know jack about the subject but I read/saw a few days ago that the rig that sank was flying a Solomon Islands flag and was operating under their regulations.


Deepwater Horizon was operating under Marshall Island flag.

Next time you're on the Miss. River or any seaport, check out the registry on the ships. You'll see plenty of Panamanian flags. Use to be plenty registered in Liberia also. Flag of convenience.


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