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60 minutes on CBS
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:15 pm
pretty good story right now
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:19 pm to Tigerpaw123
Is this the guy who was on Mark Levin's show?
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:21 pm to DoctorTechnical
It sounds like the same guy.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:30 pm to Tigerpaw123
BP is fricked.
Nothing that's happening in this show is good for them.
And if all this is correct, may those frickers burn in hell for doing this.
Nothing that's happening in this show is good for them.
And if all this is correct, may those frickers burn in hell for doing this.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:32 pm to BROffshoreTigerFan
This is a good story! I just hope they get this stuff stopped! I am from Empire, but live in North Carolina..
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:33 pm to Tigerpaw123
didnt mention there are 2 annulars, not one
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:35 pm to man in the stadium
So if one (of the two) annulars fail, is that enough for a blow-out given the other circumstances?
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:45 pm to canuk47
Missed the show cliff notes please.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:48 pm to canuk47
That was an extremely informative segment. This accident is going to change everything !!!!!!
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:49 pm to canuk47
if one fails the other should hold
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:51 pm to Oyster
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Missed the show cliff notes please.
BP was rushing transocean and corners were cut. All things point to BP's fault according to a rig worker and an engineering expert.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:55 pm to El Josey Wales
BP executives involved with this should be jailed for life.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 6:58 pm to 1LoudTideFan
I think the next thing that comes out, or one of the next things, is that the well reports they gave the Feds for the investigation turn out to be manufactured after the fact.
What the reports state, and what the rig electrician states, aren't the same.
When that info comes out, the shite is going to hit the fan.
What the reports state, and what the rig electrician states, aren't the same.
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BP executives involved with this should be jailed for life.
When that info comes out, the shite is going to hit the fan.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 7:01 pm to 1LoudTideFan
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BP executives involved with this should be jailed for life.
In case you didn't notice, BP has been able to get new relief drilling going and a new tube inserted in an amazingly short time. This was probably due to contingency planning by ... (drumroll) oil executives.
Blowouts have been going on for a hundred years, fast response and effective containment at over 5000 feet is pretty recent.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 7:03 pm to Tigerpaw123
Crap, I missed it! Hopefully I can see it somewhere 
Posted on 5/16/10 at 7:09 pm to foshizzle
Did you watch the 60 minutes show?
If you did, you'd realize that the fault is shown to be with BP for pushing the job ahead even when reports were showing that the BOP was faulty. It was also BP that wanted to displace before all the plugs were set. If they had waited, this likely doesn't happen. There were several instances in the show where it proved that a safety issue was brought up to BP, and they ignored it and pressed on.
I'll agree that what they've been able to accomplish in getting the new wells started and to somewhat successfully divert the biggest flow of oil into a pipe where it's stored in a tanker until something better comes up has been cutting edge and phenomenal.
But if they hadn't ignored safety concerns, we wouldn't have to thank them for fricking us in the arse. Know what I mean?
If you did, you'd realize that the fault is shown to be with BP for pushing the job ahead even when reports were showing that the BOP was faulty. It was also BP that wanted to displace before all the plugs were set. If they had waited, this likely doesn't happen. There were several instances in the show where it proved that a safety issue was brought up to BP, and they ignored it and pressed on.
I'll agree that what they've been able to accomplish in getting the new wells started and to somewhat successfully divert the biggest flow of oil into a pipe where it's stored in a tanker until something better comes up has been cutting edge and phenomenal.
But if they hadn't ignored safety concerns, we wouldn't have to thank them for fricking us in the arse. Know what I mean?
Posted on 5/16/10 at 7:17 pm to BROffshoreTigerFan
Thats funny because I went to a BP safety training class for the oil spill and the message over and over was "STOP THE JOB" if you dont feel comfortable or not knowing what is fully going on. 
Posted on 5/16/10 at 7:19 pm to BROffshoreTigerFan
damage to the annular's rubber element does not mean it is totally ineffective. it is a rubber good, and the element is replaced every well. this is an understood phenomenon.
it is designed to allow the very thing they described -- what is known as "stripping". when you close the annular against the drill pipe w/ pressure beneath it, then move the drill pipe up or down as needed. as also mentioned -- there are 2 annulars shown in the graphic.
additionally, if the annular is worn or damaged, that's why it is pressure tested every 14 days. if it fails to test, it is either taken out of service or the BOP stack is recovered to surface for repair.
let me also add that the annular has nothing to do w/ the failure of the shear rams to shut in the well.
furthermore, asking the driller to increase ROP is something every co. man has done, and does not necessarily mean anything nefarious was going on.
now, as to what's going on w/ the pod and battery, i would assume these events were reported to the MMS -- as all problems like this w/ the BOP stack should be, but who knows.
and finally, if the casing hanger failed like BP suspects, they could have pumped 20 cement plugs in the production casing and it would not have mattered, as the well is flowing out of the annulus. including halliburton in these discussions is strictly a political red herring.
the issue is the well design, and the bop functionality -- specifically the functionality of the shear rams.
this is a very emotional story, and i appreciate the events as the guy relayed them. but he is the chief electric tech (the chief ET). he is not a part of the drilling department, he is a part of the maintenance department. the functionality of drilling components, mechanics of drilling, etc are not his area of expertise. his job does mandate that he passes any kind of well control training either, so i would take w/ a grain of salt the stuff he has to say about the mechanics of drilling.
it is designed to allow the very thing they described -- what is known as "stripping". when you close the annular against the drill pipe w/ pressure beneath it, then move the drill pipe up or down as needed. as also mentioned -- there are 2 annulars shown in the graphic.
additionally, if the annular is worn or damaged, that's why it is pressure tested every 14 days. if it fails to test, it is either taken out of service or the BOP stack is recovered to surface for repair.
let me also add that the annular has nothing to do w/ the failure of the shear rams to shut in the well.
furthermore, asking the driller to increase ROP is something every co. man has done, and does not necessarily mean anything nefarious was going on.
now, as to what's going on w/ the pod and battery, i would assume these events were reported to the MMS -- as all problems like this w/ the BOP stack should be, but who knows.
and finally, if the casing hanger failed like BP suspects, they could have pumped 20 cement plugs in the production casing and it would not have mattered, as the well is flowing out of the annulus. including halliburton in these discussions is strictly a political red herring.
the issue is the well design, and the bop functionality -- specifically the functionality of the shear rams.
this is a very emotional story, and i appreciate the events as the guy relayed them. but he is the chief electric tech (the chief ET). he is not a part of the drilling department, he is a part of the maintenance department. the functionality of drilling components, mechanics of drilling, etc are not his area of expertise. his job does mandate that he passes any kind of well control training either, so i would take w/ a grain of salt the stuff he has to say about the mechanics of drilling.
Posted on 5/16/10 at 7:20 pm to foshizzle
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Blowouts have been going on for a hundred years, fast response and effective containment at over 5000 feet is pretty recent.
Maybe BP should have done things right so that they wouldn't have to come up with new contingency plan.
I don't get why people keep apologizing for BP? It's not an indictment of the the O&G industry to say that BP fricked up royally. It's an indictment of BP and they will and should pay dearly for their gross negligence.
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