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re: why does everyone seem convinced that the OL will be better ?

Posted on 5/6/10 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23087 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 1:16 pm to
I don't necessarily think the OP was getting at this but it seems the attitude among the more negative posters is that every area we were good in last year will be worse and every area we struggled in will ne at least that bad if not worse.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

where did we gain size exactly ? i dont really wanna look it up


2009 vs. 2010

LT - 322 - 315
LG - 281 - 300
OC -285 - 300
RG - 295 - 300
RT - 315 - 324

These numbers are off of LSUsports.net, so the differences are probably not as pronounced as they should be, but I think it gets the idea across.

ETA: Edited for the post about JD being 300+
This post was edited on 5/6/10 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Books
BR
Member since Jun 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Ben Wilkerson is now doing Stud's job for him.
wish we could know for certain how much of an impact BW has/will have
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 1:26 pm to
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wish we could know for certain how much of an impact BW has/will have


121 days and counting until his and BG's opening night.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9605 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

LT - 322 - 315
LG - 281 - 300
OC -285 - 300
RG - 295 - 300
RT - 315 - 324


this
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2005
17751 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 2:16 pm to
Serious answer. Another negative post about LSU football.......fail.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29888 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Because it can't possibly be any worse.


Only way to go is up. lol
Posted by alange
Island hoppin
Member since Feb 2009
4820 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 2:18 pm to
Knowing that Ken Adams ran a 4.4 40 kind of puts me at ease about those sacks the OL gave up in the spring game.
Posted by Dobermann
Member since Sep 2008
2032 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 2:19 pm to
blind optimism
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 2:27 pm to
barksdale at lt? couldnt be worse than black in 09. lonergan better than t-bob. kid has heart, but lacks in size. dont wish downfall on anyone, but the leg and dui might be a blessing. hurst, blackwell performed well in limited duty. i know that it can worse statistically, but, it really cant. we wont see the debacle we saw last yr.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34537 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:43 pm to
Very simple answer:

It can't get much worse.
Posted by wmrebel74
Member since Mar 2007
2839 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

why does everyone seem convinced that the OL will be better ?


Guys this is simple:

WM kid starting on the oline = IMMEDIATE upgrade











j.k guys but I think this oline will be better b/c Longeran is a muuuuuch better Center than T-Bob annnd it all starts in the middle.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

My biggest concern is barksdale at LT. Addition of wilkerson to the staff.

JB will be better than CB on a gimpy knee last season IMHO. The starters looked better in the spring game than I thought they would with 3 new guys. JD looked bigger and stronger as well.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Because it can't possibly be any worse.

you know it
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

It can't get much worse.

This is the only logical answer. Anything else is P&G optimism mixed with blind speculation.

The facts are that the OL lost 2 multi-year starters (one voted the best blocker in the league).
The players replacing them were on the team and able to play but not good enough to start over last year's starters. This would lead any rational person to believe that the other 3 starters & those behind them aren't very good/very well coached (whatever you want to say).

Please tell me how logic can tell someone that a TERRIBLE unit can lose 2 multi-year starters (one voted best in the league), have no great new player that wasn't available last year (proven transfer, etc) and be so much better.

Heavier =/= equal better just b/c you say it does.

Just be truthful with yourselves. It doesn't make you less of a fan if you're honest & rational.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:48 pm to
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Longeran is a muuuuuch better Center than T-Bob
Honestly, if he were THAT much better, wouldn't he have started last year? Can't the coaches see that at practice?
That's what all the Miles lovers say when someone points out the possibility that Miles shows favoritism (which I don't really believe BTW).
Posted by LATIGERFAN
Member since Sep 2009
1320 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:49 pm to
I saw Lyle Hitt play in the Capitol One Bowl. I saw Alex Hurst play in the Capitol One Bowl. I'll take Hurst any day of the week over what I saw from Hitt.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

The starters looked better in the spring game
Not saying that you specifically said it...but why does the SG matter when evaluating OL but not when evaluating QB, DL, LB, et al?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56955 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

Not saying that you specifically said it...but why does the SG matter when evaluating OL but not when evaluating QB, DL, LB, et al?


It is just one piece of the puzzle. It is not conclusive evidence. But when you see the OL getting a push when they couldn't do that at all last year it is somewhat meaningful.

Posted by Raparooot
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2009
3622 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 7:56 pm to
Don't put me in the category of "everyone."
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