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re: all the critics on miles

Posted on 4/3/10 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by XbengalTiger
212 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
5465 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 6:06 pm to
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In reality, it would be his 1st double digit win season with players that were 100% his recruits and his head assistants.
And after he does than, you fricktards will make up some other "reality" to bitch about...

In REAL reality he has had 3 out of 5 double digit win seasons as head coach of LSU. But I digress, I guess the team coached itself.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 6:14 pm to
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They would have had 20 seconds

Doubtful. Closer to 10 seconds.
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plenty of time for 3-4 more plays.

Have you ever seen LSU's offense in the final seconds of a game? We practically NEVER get off 3 plays in 20 seconds. In the Ole Miss game, we had nearly 30 seconds plus a timeout and only got off one play.
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LSU was 3rd in the SEC last year.

Three games out of the division race.
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They improved their record

If you set the bar low enough, some improvement is almost inevitable. If the offense finishes 110th in the country this year, that'll be improvement, too.
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Miles won a title in his 3rd season which rationally can not be attributed to Saban.

It can rationally be attributed in part to Saban. The early years of a coach's tenure are pretty much determined for him unless he is really amazingly good or really amazingly bad.
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It makes me sad how stupid many are in the fanbase.

Me, too. It keeps our administration from taking the necessary steps to protect our programs from shitty coaches.
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Most of are fanbase really deserve a shitty coach and team that will have us finishing in the bottom half of the SEC

I don't think you deserve it, but you sure seem determined to have it.
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So go ahead and get rid of him

Welcome to the side of good sense.
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the 90s were better anyway.

No, they really weren't, so I wish you and others like you weren't so determined to take us back there.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37844 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 6:17 pm to
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Stupid remark..... About as stupid as any as I have ever read....

Ever heard of Kirby Smart ... Will Muschamp?

You forget that Saban had Jimbo Fisher and Will Muschamp at LSU in '03....
Talk about fricking stupid. Wow.

Saban is a defensive guy and brings HIS defense wherever he goes. Miles is an offensive coach and brings.... WHAT?!?

Alabama just had the 3rd ranked defense in the nation, LSU had the 108th ranked offense.

If you don't see the difference, you are the dumbest MF on the planet.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22841 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 6:27 pm to
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No, they really weren't, so I wish you and others like you weren't so determined to take us back there.


You ever heard of sarcasm.
This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 6:27 pm
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 6:37 pm to
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You ever heard of sarcasm.


Yes, but apparently you haven't. It's KEEPING Miles that will take us to the '90s, not firing him.
Posted by Tigerdandy
Member since May 2007
726 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 6:57 pm to
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It's KEEPING Miles that will take us to the '90s


I think we should keep Miles and lose you.

You blow whichever direction the wind blows. Talk about fairweather fan. Not long ago you thought Saban sucked and Miles was great. Now you are doing a 180.

Be honest with yourself, you don't have a fricking clue!
Posted by the crue
Chackbay-Thibodaux
Member since May 2008
3972 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 7:02 pm to
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Miles is an average coach that ENTIRELY relies on his assistants.Stupid remark..... About as stupid as any as I have ever read....

Ever heard of Kirby Smart ... Will Muschamp?

You forget that Saban had Jimbo Fisher and Will Muschamp at LSU in '03....
saban won 2 nc's with 2 different oc's & dc's. no matter who is dc, it's still going to be saban's defense.
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 7:40 pm to
To think we will go 7-5 is a absolute JOKE.
Posted by JaxTigah
Jackson, MS
Member since Dec 2009
1499 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 7:47 pm to
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To think we will go 7-5 is a absolute JOKE.



Just a lot of people on here that are wishing we go 7-5 so they can be proven right and hopefully get Miles fired. The same people saying we will go 7-5 (or worse) will be the same ones bitching that instead of being in the BCSNCG we were 11-3.

This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 7:49 pm
Posted by JaxTigah
Jackson, MS
Member since Dec 2009
1499 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 7:47 pm to



This post was edited on 4/3/10 at 7:48 pm
Posted by jhamil25
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2007
2482 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 7:53 pm to
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Clearly LSU has some of the dumbest fans in America


Tru Dat
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27720 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 8:07 pm to
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Just a lot of people on here that are wishing we go 7-5 so they can be proven right and hopefully get Miles fired. The same people saying we will go 7-5 (or worse) will be the same ones bitching that instead of being on the BCSNCG we were 11-3.


as much as I love the Tigers, I wish we would have lost to Miss State this past year and it would have snow balled into a horrible season. I fear that Les Miles is going to win 8-10 games (out of 12-13) a year for the next 5 years while we continue to play second fiddle in our division and conference.

As for how unlikely it is that we would go 7-5 again, look back at the last two years:

2008, (8-5 season, 3-5 SEC record), 5 point win against a bad Auburn team, blow out losses to Florida, Georgia, and Ole Miss.

2009, (9-3 season, 5-3 SEC record)), 5 wins by 8 or less points against mighty powers Washington, Miss State, Georgia, La Tech, and Arkansas.

We could have very easily gone 7-6 in 2008 and 4-8 in 2009. Why don't you read that again? We were close to being 4-8 last year.

Les Miles is 8-8 in the SEC in the last two years. If we were playing in the AFC East or NFC North, that might be acceptable. But, it is not acceptable in the SEC when half of the teams you play barely have a winning record.
Posted by JaxTigah
Jackson, MS
Member since Dec 2009
1499 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 8:28 pm to
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009, (9-3 season, 5-3 SEC record)), 5 wins by 8 or less points against mighty powers Washington, Miss State, Georgia, La Tech, and Arkansas.

We could have very easily gone 7-6 in 2008 and 4-8 in 2009. Why don't you read that again? We were close to being 4-8 last year.


Agreed. By the same token, in 2008 we took the #1 team in the nation to overtime after having a pick a six and other interceptions and with a horrible defense and had another loss by one point. So, we were three points in regulation from being 10-3 and 5-3 SEC.

In 2009, we lost two two games by 2 points. A field goal in those and we are 11-2 and 6-2 SEC (and I will grant you, we could have had that field goal in one of those games).

The points argument cuts both ways. Miles has to get it done this year to keep me on board but to say that we are a few points from being losers, we are also a few points from being even better winners.




Posted by the crue
Chackbay-Thibodaux
Member since May 2008
3972 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 8:32 pm to
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To think we will go 7-5 is a absolute JOKE
i don't think so, a few bad breaks & it is very possible
Posted by Paulu
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2006
4440 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 8:48 pm to
Is it a coincidence that Pellini was around for Miles "success" in the 1st 3 years. How come Bo has a higher ranked team than Miles in only his 2nd year at NE. BTW - Bo P never got to take over all the talent that Miles was given. NE will also be higher ranked in this upcoming preseason.
You also forget the program that Miles inherited. He was not responsible for recruiting all the players during that initial run. What we see today is a 100% Miles program of mediocrity in coaching and player development.
It is called superior coaching and superior player development. The entire country sees it.
Ask yourself this question - why wouldn't Ok St take Miles today over their current head coach?
Posted by JaxTigah
Jackson, MS
Member since Dec 2009
1499 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 8:55 pm to
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Is it a coincidence that Pellini was around for Miles "success" in the 1st 3 years. How come Bo has a higher ranked team than Miles in only his 2nd year at NE. BTW - Bo P never got to take over all the talent that Miles was given. NE will also be higher ranked in this upcoming preseason.


Or could it be that Bo coaches in the Sahara of College Football (the Big 12 North) and not the SEC. You must not have been one of the people that were on this board in 2005 wanting Pelini fired after the ASU and UT games.

And I guess Miles staff had no hand in the development of the players that won the NC in '07.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 8:56 pm to
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as much as I love the Tigers, I wish we would have lost to Miss State this past year and it would have snow balled into a horrible season


This tells me all I need to know about you.

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But, it is not acceptable in the SEC when half of the teams you play barely have a winning record.


Do I really need to explain the nearly-universal notion that the SEC is the farmhouse for the NFL? The reason that all of these teams "barely had a winning record" which also means that nearly all of them made a bowl game, just shows the parity in the division once one looks beyond Florida, Alabama, and yes, LSU.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 9:03 pm to
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Is it a coincidence that Pellini was around for Miles "success" in the 1st 3 years. How come Bo has a higher ranked team than Miles in only his 2nd year at NE. BTW - Bo P never got to take over all the talent that Miles was given.


1) Big 12 vs. SEC
2) Ndamukong Suh


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You also forget the program that Miles inherited. He was not responsible for recruiting all the players during that initial run. What we see today is a 100% Miles program of mediocrity in coaching and player development.


This is such a tired argument.

Miles achieved greater success with Saban's players than Saban did. This is a fact.

After Miles' second year coaching, he was primarily responsible for the development seen in his players. Those individuals left won a National Championship. This, too, is a fact.

LSU is currently approaching the Nation's leading streak of players taken in the first round of the NFL Draft. Depending on what happens with Brandon LaFell, this streak could very well continue. While the latter is speculation, the former is factual.

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It is called superior coaching and superior player development. The entire country sees it.


I defy you to name a coach in the country who would not be intimidated at the prospect of playing the team this year. Far more teams view us as a behemoth than a cupcake.

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Ask yourself this question - why wouldn't Ok St take Miles today over their current head coach?


Ask yourself this question - why are all Michigan fans praying that we're stupid enough to let Miles walk... and furthermore, what basis do you have to assume that OK State wouldn't grab Miles if they were given the opportunity?
Posted by Paulu
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2006
4440 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 9:22 pm to
Everyone has their opinion.
We are going to be some greatly feared team this year?
Not with the offense that I saw last fall and this spring. Not with the weak trench play.
I saw some really weak middle DL play and terrible OT play on the outside at the Spring game. It starts in the trenches. Our QB play has been abysmal.
How about going to the OK State board and asking the question? Talk to some OK St fans.
If TX does not lose their QB at the start of that game, AL may not have run away with it.
What is our 2 year SEC record? 500% - we are a break even SEC team. Record against FL, AL, OM the last 2 years is 0-6. Throw in Ark and we are lucky to be 1 - 7.
It is easy to ignore what type of program Saban took over. Too bad we never got to see what Saban would have done the last 5 years if he stayed.
None of us would be having this discussion. We may have ended up dominating the SEC instead of taking a step back the last two years. We might not be talking about a team that is unable to put pressure on the QB or a team unable to run the ball.
LSU would probably still be knocking the snot out of our opponents in the trenches and on defense. We would still sacking the opposing QB.
Let's see what happens in the fall. Funny thing is that this same discussion was going on last year at this time. The answer was still the same - let's see what happens in the fall.
But for the contract that Skip gave Miles - he might not be at LSU right now.

Posted by Paulu
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2006
4440 posts
Posted on 4/3/10 at 9:26 pm to
BTW - La Tech, Ms St, etc did not see us as an unbeatable team. Neither did what was going to be that great Rose Bowl team WA or Ark. We all know about the OM, AL and FL results the last 2 years.
Hate to think it but but other teams do not fear LSU any longer. NC and WV are coming right at us thinking they will win.
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