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re: Houston Bates Drama

Posted on 3/17/10 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/17/10 at 2:04 pm to
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I think that Cash's point was that there is asymmetrical information fed to us. He's not saying that no one is committed, but if you want proof that kids without committable offers commit to schools, go find the video about the loser who faked his commitment to Cal.


Kevin Hart. And why do I know his name? Because it was national news! And why was it news? Because it rarely happens. A kid can get away with embellishing the truth a little on his list of offers, but if he "accepts" a non-existant offer, it seems like it would immediately bite him on the arse. Just like it did Kevin Hart.

I pisses me off that people still insist that Bates was never offered by LSU. This is complete and utter bullshite, not "asymmetrical information" as you so eloquently put it.
Posted by Cash
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/17/10 at 2:20 pm to
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Kevin Hart. And why do I know his name? Because it was national news! And why was it news? Because it rarely happens. A kid can get away with embellishing the truth a little on his list of offers, but if he "accepts" a non-existant offer, it seems like it would immediately bite him on the arse.


Kevin Hart got bit in the arse because a reporter in Nevada called Cal and asked about him. The coach said he never heard that name before. All that a coach can say is if his school is recruiting a player or not. He can't comment about offer's, visits, phone calls, camps, etc.

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I pisses me off that people still insist that Bates was never offered by LSU.


But what was he offered? grey shirt? preferred walk on? full ride with no strings?

I have no idea.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 3/17/10 at 2:46 pm to
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Kevin Hart. And why do I know his name? Because it was national news! And why was it news? Because it rarely happens. A kid can get away with embellishing the truth a little on his list of offers, but if he "accepts" a non-existant offer, it seems like it would immediately bite him on the arse. Just like it did Kevin Hart.


You made my point in your point. It is possible that Bates misunderstood/embellished his offer a little, which is why LSU didn't just throw him out in the cold. They may have felt like they mislead him to some extent, but he may have gone to the press before confirming the commitment with Miles.

Do I know any of this? No. This is why I, unlike yourself, am not proclaiming any of this as fact. However, to deny that it's a possibility is just dense.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 3/17/10 at 5:27 pm to
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I pisses me off that people still insist that Bates was never offered by LSU. This is complete and utter bullshite, not "asymmetrical information" as you so eloquently put it.


If you pay attention, you'll see very quickly that not all "offers" are unconditional. You'll hear people use the term "committable offer".

Almost immediately after Bates committed, there were pretty strong rumors that it wasn't a sure thing and that he may not have a spot. Also, there are other examples such as Storm Johnson who tried to commit without an offer.

This happens every year.

The example you use made national news because the guy wasn't even recruited and made up the entire scam to put himself in the public eye...not because he tried to accept a conditional offer. You are confused.
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