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Posted on 3/5/10 at 11:52 am to Chicken
Posted on 3/5/10 at 11:52 am to Chicken
no they aren't trends...just like it's not a trend at lsu. Oklahoma has won 1 BCS Title, and probably lost 4 BCS games. LSU has done better in the SEC. Imagine what they would do in big12. USC? They are in Pac 10, give me a break. They won 1 BCS Title despite being media darling. It would be nice to be in pac 10 and also get to play big 10 for your bcs game every year.
Posted on 3/5/10 at 12:18 pm to DunbartonTiger
Tell me how Miles is an idiot, but Carrol loses two games alomst every year to people he shouldn't, but is a Great Coach? As far as talent and 4 and 5 stars, there is not team in america that has had more talent the last 6 or 7 years. Yet, they have consistenly under achieved. Yes, they made it to some BCS games, because they were the Big dog in a beagle conference most years. Same with Ohio State...
I don't agree with everything Miles has done, but also know that without a Jr or Sr QB, most teams in our conference are lucky to win 8 games...That is the bottom line....I think the real issue that people have a problem with is losing to Ole Miss the way we have for the last two years. It isn't about wins and losses it is about not dominating the lesser teams, which I believe will happen once we imporve in the area of QB. Should happen this year...We will see..
I don't agree with everything Miles has done, but also know that without a Jr or Sr QB, most teams in our conference are lucky to win 8 games...That is the bottom line....I think the real issue that people have a problem with is losing to Ole Miss the way we have for the last two years. It isn't about wins and losses it is about not dominating the lesser teams, which I believe will happen once we imporve in the area of QB. Should happen this year...We will see..
This post was edited on 3/5/10 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 3/5/10 at 12:45 pm to dogman67
I didn't know they had the Internet in dunbarton, I just missed the chitlin cookin
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 12:45 pm to TigerFan55555
While Les didn't earn his $4 million, you sure do have a hard-on about the money.
That's the business--you get paid in the future for your past accomplishments (3 top 5s, one National Title).
The notion that anyone would voluntarily ask the school to cut his pay is freakin laughable. Grow up.
That's the business--you get paid in the future for your past accomplishments (3 top 5s, one National Title).
The notion that anyone would voluntarily ask the school to cut his pay is freakin laughable. Grow up.
Posted on 3/5/10 at 12:48 pm to DunbartonTiger
quote:Ole Miss 2009
the haters on this site. There are generally 2 types of haters. The ones who have VERY little education and are not smart enough to know that things run in patterns....there are ups and downs and you are lucky when the downs are not that bad at all. Then there are the young haters...who haven't been around a full cycle of football yet. They still are naive and ignorant enough to believe you CAN win every single year at the highest level. They can't quite comprehend that there are ups and downs and that 8-5 and 9-4 are truly not that bad at ll for down years without a QB in the SEC. They will unfortunately learn though at some point in their lives and be wishing they could go 9-4. A lot of these young guys are educated but just don't have practical common sense yet. I hear these experts talk about the TREND at LSU and the direction of the program etc....what a joke. I guess USC and Oklahoma are also done too right given their trends? I guess florida was done in 2007 given their 9-4 recrod with tebow right? I am 44, and realistic about the expectations of lsu. I am not satisfied with mediocrity but rather understand that we will have down years now and then. I thought the last two years were going to be rough ones given our qb situation, and in all honesty, we did a little better than i thought. Now, I do think we are ready to win at least the West again this year. I am not sold on jefferson, but do think he will mature and grow enough to lead the offense to be much, much better in 2010. I think the young guys up front for LSU on defense will be some real stars and future first round picks. The future is very bright for LSU football, just you wouldn't know it by all the ignorant haters on here. Whether i like or dislike les miles is irrelevant. He has shown he can win at the highest level with three top 5's and a NC, and I am confident he will again. So, hate on haters...it will be funny to listen to your excuses when we have a damn good season. Les
Posted on 3/5/10 at 1:13 pm to DunbartonTiger
There also patterns of good and bad coaches.
I think teh past two years are being blamed on defensive coordinators, offensive coordinators, line coaches, strength coaches, quarterbacks, running backs, etc.
After awhile it is time to realize what they all have in common is the HEAD COACH.
I think teh past two years are being blamed on defensive coordinators, offensive coordinators, line coaches, strength coaches, quarterbacks, running backs, etc.
After awhile it is time to realize what they all have in common is the HEAD COACH.
Posted on 3/5/10 at 1:22 pm to Tiger_in_Texas
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After awhile it is time to realize what they all have in common is the HEAD COACH
Does this apply to the first three years as well?
Posted on 3/5/10 at 1:23 pm to Tiger_in_Texas
lmao...young, dumb, and arrogant. That is Houston Fan. Thank god we have smarter people in charge of athletics at LSU, otherwise we would be getting a new head coach every few years. lol
Posted on 3/5/10 at 1:26 pm to DunbartonTiger
quote:what do you base this on? we have a tough schedule next year with a lot of positions unproven.
The future is very bright for LSU football
Posted on 3/5/10 at 1:29 pm to DunbartonTiger
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Oklahoma hasn't won a major bowl in years. What has USC done lately other than lose to teams they should clearly not be losing to. No they aren't trends, no more than LSU's last two seasons without a good qb.
The top SEC football teams never seem to get the credit they are due for competing in the very best college football conference in the NCAA.
Folks, the SEC has won 4 BCS titles in a row and 5 of the last 7 and 3 different SEC teams have won BCS titles in that period of time. In the same time period, 5 different SEC teams have played in BCS bowls! 5!!! It's a damn tough conference NO team since Bama with the Bear controlled it.
So, coming in 3rd in the SEC over-all is nothing to be ashamed of and nothing that denotes a failing program or a mediocre program.
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Posted on 3/5/10 at 1:51 pm to Tiger_in_Texas
lmao...young, dumb, and arrogant. That is Houston Fan. Thank god we have smarter people in charge of athletics at LSU, otherwise we would be getting a new head coach every few years. lol
Posted on 3/5/10 at 2:05 pm to DunbartonTiger
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I mean miles did better with the talent than saban did.
Saban, while rebuilding a program, won 2 SEC titles and a SEC Championship. LSU has won 1 SEC title under Les Miles.
Do you think that the 2001 team was as talented as the 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 or 2009 team?
I think it is pretty unintelligent of fans to make statements like yours while ignoring the state of the programs when each coach took over.
Did you like losing 2 games in 2007 due to stupid penalties as simple as lining up correctly?
What does Miles bring to the table as far as a head coach? He doesn't really coach the offensive line and has to hire expensive coordinators. The players don't respect him at all, and that worries me 10x more than the downward trend.
I think that LSU will win the SEC West this year because the oline will be improved. It still won't make Les Miles a top 5 coach in the SEC IMO
This post was edited on 3/5/10 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 3/5/10 at 2:17 pm to TigerBait1127
LMAO. Tell me again about those coaches you rank higher than les miles if he is not in the top 5....hilarious. The young and dumb. Tell me again about saban's 2004 talent? You know his fifth year as coach...how did that year end up with all that talent he left for miles? What a joke. This is the type of crap i was talking about on this board. Completely ignorant people that have no idea of what it's like to go through down years.....but son you will one day that i assure you unfortunately. It happens everywhere. Tell me again who those top 5 coaches in the SEC are. This will be a good one. You obviously have saban and meyer. The next ones will be funny that you are ranking above miles. Let's hear them genius.
Posted on 3/5/10 at 2:26 pm to DunbartonTiger
cool headed and rational post. one of the greatest anticipations of mine is when our tigers "gel" as a team and win the sec by beating bama and florida again. we are getting the talent and we are better at coaching than before. these last two years will be known as "character builders". i will be calling out the haters then. great post.
Posted on 3/5/10 at 2:27 pm to DunbartonTiger
quote:i'll start with houston nutt, beat miles the last 2 years with far less talent, spurrier, dooley gave miles a run last year with half his team injured. you could make a case for petrino
The next ones will be funny that you are ranking above miles. Let's hear them genius.
Posted on 3/5/10 at 2:29 pm to DunbartonTiger
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The young and dumb.
always a valid point. I guess you are old and senile?
quote:
Tell me again about saban's 2004 talent?
College football teams only played 11 regular seasons games in 2004. Basically comparable to a 10 win season. We lost 2 games in the final minutes (Iowa and Auburn) and were competitive in every game except for one. Could it have been better? Yes. Does 1 season equal a trend? No
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how did that year end up with all that talent he left for miles?
we went 9-3 and lost to the capitol one bowl, we ran the ball effectively and played very good defense. LSU has not really ran the ball well over the last 2 seasons and certainly has not played good defense.
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Completely ignorant people that have no idea of what it's like to go through down years.....but son you will one day that i assure you unfortunately.
Or maybe I don't want to return to the down years? I'm okay with the 2 down years if we rebound this year.
quote:
Tell me again who those top 5 coaches in the SEC are
Saban (brings great D to the table)
Meyer (brings great O to the table)
Petrino (brings offense and QB development)
Nutt
Spurrier (offense)
Miles brings recruiting and "manages" the players
I think Dan Mullen is a better coach as well, just hasn't proven it yet. He certainly outcoached Miles last year. The only reason I put Nutt>Miles is because Nutt is 3-2 against Miles winning 3 in a row with less talent.
This post was edited on 3/5/10 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 3/5/10 at 2:38 pm to TigerFan55555
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if by continuing a succesful program that was laid at his feet, then by god im in the wrong buisness.
By all means. Apply for the Head Coaching job. Anywhere.
Posted on 3/5/10 at 2:40 pm to TigerBait1127
OMG. I knew this would be funny. Petrino has been in the league two years and doesn't have a winning record and hasn't even sniffed a decent bowl game. Would not surprise me if he was fired at the end of this year. Spurrier? Please. He has done NOTHING in his last what 6-8 years....He can't recruit as well as miles and if you judge wins as success, can't coach as well as Miles. Both of the teams this year were all their own players. Enough said about that. Now Nutt, this is always the Hilarious one. Every now and then the media or others pump up a coach without him really ever accomplishing anything. Much like lane kiffin. Nutt HAS BEEN IN THE SEC FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS NOW, NEVER WON A SEC CHAMPIONSHIP, AND NEVER BEEN TO A BCS GAME. Please give me a freaking break. If he had used Mccluster the correct way all year things may have been different for them...but he did not coach them well. Meanwhile Miles has been in the SEC only three years and won 2 West Titles, 1 BCS Championship, 1 SEC Championship, 2 BCS games, 4 bowl games, 3 top 5 finishes and won 79% of his games. Good god. Not one of those other coaches you listed has ever even won a SEC Championship game much less a BCS game. Give me a break.
You said Saban played every game close in 2004 with all that talent and only lost 3 games. Uh, hello, we were in every game this year as well, so don't give me your BS about close losses etc. He couldn't get it done in his 5th years. Miles did get it done for 3 years a row after than, and in their 5th years, they both probably finished at about the same ranking.
You said Saban played every game close in 2004 with all that talent and only lost 3 games. Uh, hello, we were in every game this year as well, so don't give me your BS about close losses etc. He couldn't get it done in his 5th years. Miles did get it done for 3 years a row after than, and in their 5th years, they both probably finished at about the same ranking.
Posted on 3/5/10 at 2:40 pm to TigerBait1127
OMG. I knew this would be funny. Petrino has been in the league two years and doesn't have a winning record and hasn't even sniffed a decent bowl game. Would not surprise me if he was fired at the end of this year. Spurrier? Please. He has done NOTHING in his last what 6-8 years....He can't recruit as well as miles and if you judge wins as success, can't coach as well as Miles. Both of the teams this year were all their own players. Enough said about that. Now Nutt, this is always the Hilarious one. Every now and then the media or others pump up a coach without him really ever accomplishing anything. Much like lane kiffin. Nutt HAS BEEN IN THE SEC FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS NOW, NEVER WON A SEC CHAMPIONSHIP, AND NEVER BEEN TO A BCS GAME. Please give me a freaking break. If he had used Mccluster the correct way all year things may have been different for them...but he did not coach them well. Meanwhile Miles has been in the SEC only three years and won 2 West Titles, 1 BCS Championship, 1 SEC Championship, 2 BCS games, 4 bowl games, 3 top 5 finishes and won 79% of his games. Good god. Not one of those other coaches you listed has ever even won a SEC Championship game much less a BCS game. Give me a break.
You said Saban played every game close in 2004 with all that talent and only lost 3 games. Uh, hello, we were in every game this year as well, so don't give me your BS about close losses etc. He couldn't get it done in his 5th years. Miles did get it done for 3 years a row after than, and in their 5th years, they both probably finished at about the same ranking.
You said Saban played every game close in 2004 with all that talent and only lost 3 games. Uh, hello, we were in every game this year as well, so don't give me your BS about close losses etc. He couldn't get it done in his 5th years. Miles did get it done for 3 years a row after than, and in their 5th years, they both probably finished at about the same ranking.
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