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Is Miles making the same mistake Mike Archer did
Posted on 2/1/10 at 10:10 am
Posted on 2/1/10 at 10:10 am
Mike Archer wanted to recruit Texas and other states and this lead to Louisiana recruits going elsewhere and thus began the decline of LSU football all through the 1990s.
Miles' recruitment of Mike Davis and Justin Hunter over Fobbs, Reed etc.
Miles' big strength is he can recruit. We know his coaching, especially on gameday, is not spectacular. If his recruiting drops off, I think we are better off without him?
Miles' recruitment of Mike Davis and Justin Hunter over Fobbs, Reed etc.
Miles' big strength is he can recruit. We know his coaching, especially on gameday, is not spectacular. If his recruiting drops off, I think we are better off without him?
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Posted on 2/1/10 at 10:12 am to mike4lsu
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this lead to Louisiana recruits going elsewhere and thus began the decline of LSU football all through the 1990s.
2011 Commitments...
La'El Collins Offensive Tackle (9/28/09) - Redemptorist H.S. (LA)
Jeremy Hill Running Back (9/28/09) - Redemptorist H.S. (LA)
Anthony Johnson Defensive Tackle (12/18/09) - O. Perry Walker H.S. (LA)
Corey White Offensive Tackle (12/18/09) - Capitol Senior H.S. (LA)
Kenny Hilliard Running Back (12/19/09) - Patterson H.S. (LA)
Jarvis Landry Wide Receiver (1/9/10) - Lutcher H.S. (LA)
Terrance Magee Athlete (1/13/10) - Franklinton H.S. (LA)
Posted on 2/1/10 at 10:13 am to mike4lsu
Well..he's already got verbals from 5 or 6 of the top Louisiana players for 2011. You cant keep EVERY Louisiana kid...some just want to leave home...just like Spencer Ware of Ohio said he wanted to go out of state and thank God he did.
Posted on 2/1/10 at 10:16 am to mike4lsu
Fobbs will never amount to anything on offense. Reed, while good, isn't someone we're dying over losing.
Miles did a good job in the state this year, so this isnt a problem.
Miles did a good job in the state this year, so this isnt a problem.
Posted on 2/1/10 at 10:26 am to mike4lsu
Archer had many more shortfalls besides recruiting misdirection.
Posted on 2/1/10 at 10:31 am to mike4lsu
Wow you people really like to stretch things dont you...
Posted on 2/1/10 at 10:47 am to mike4lsu
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Miles' big strength is he can recruit.
I think that kids wanted to come to LSU which made it easy for Miles to recruit. We wil see how good of a recruiter he really is in the next few years.
Posted on 2/1/10 at 11:08 am to mike4lsu
No.
Posted on 2/1/10 at 11:16 am to mike4lsu
Another top 10 finish in recruiting is a drop off?
Posted on 2/1/10 at 11:16 am to mike4lsu
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Mike Archer wanted to recruit Texas
Texas was not the big recruiting base that it is today for LSU. And the fact that most of the good La. players were turned on by other major programs at the time did not help LSU's cause.
Posted on 2/1/10 at 11:31 am to HONDEAUX
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Archer had many more shortfalls besides recruiting misdirection
Definitely. Foremost among them is that he just isn't very bright. Wiley old Bill got over on LSU with that hire, saving Darth Visor for himself.
Posted on 2/1/10 at 12:02 pm to c on z
Posted on 2/1/10 at 12:23 pm to BayAreaTigerFan
While Mike Archer had his coaching faults/weaknesses, his biggest recruiting problem was one Mr. George Washington Eames, head of the BR NAACP at the time.
For whatever reason, this nutcase decided to declare war on LSU's football program and made rampant and totally unfounded accusations of racism against Archer, his staff and the university as a whole. Archer and the university fought this virtually the entire tenure of Archer.
If memory serves me right, he was friends with Dale Brown and Bob Brodhead was AD at the time.
DB and BB were constantly at odds and BB tried to have GWE banned from any contact with the basketball team so GWE decided to show BB he wasn't going to take any crap from anybody.
This also led to the beginning of the end for DB and the downfall of the bb program. I always wondered how he could be supportive of Eames.
Eames did as much or more damage to the LSU football and athletic program than Archer ever did.
For whatever reason, this nutcase decided to declare war on LSU's football program and made rampant and totally unfounded accusations of racism against Archer, his staff and the university as a whole. Archer and the university fought this virtually the entire tenure of Archer.
If memory serves me right, he was friends with Dale Brown and Bob Brodhead was AD at the time.
DB and BB were constantly at odds and BB tried to have GWE banned from any contact with the basketball team so GWE decided to show BB he wasn't going to take any crap from anybody.
This also led to the beginning of the end for DB and the downfall of the bb program. I always wondered how he could be supportive of Eames.
Eames did as much or more damage to the LSU football and athletic program than Archer ever did.
This post was edited on 2/1/10 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 2/1/10 at 12:36 pm to mike4lsu
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Is Miles making the same mistake Mike Archer did
Les Miles' problems:
1. Player Developement once they get on campus.
(See QB developement on field results last 2 seasons.
2. In-game coaching
He's a good recruiter, just can't really coach them once they get here. A lot of his in-game coaching decisions, well...suck.
Certainly there is a want to improve and be more efficient in these areas. We'll see.
This post was edited on 2/1/10 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 2/1/10 at 12:53 pm to mike4lsu
Archers problem was tofold! This was the beginning of the recruiting gurus and many of the so called super recruits were dudes. Secondly his predecessor hated recruiting and therfore he was not that good at it although he did bring in some simply for his namne and background
Posted on 2/1/10 at 12:54 pm to GT
Will never blame Les for a lack of talent. Les' Miles problem is recruiting a lack of NEED and developing the talent once in house.
Posted on 2/1/10 at 12:58 pm to LaBR4
cant develope talent? im guessing that he didnt coach up the team that won a national championship in 07? those seniors spent 1 or 2 years with nick saban and were ready to win it the next year? probably didnt even go to les's practices huh? probably just hung out in tigerland all day for 3 years and waited to show everyone what nick taught em? give me a break.
Posted on 2/1/10 at 1:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
My theory...not only did the coaching suck but most people forget that our beloved state almost elected the grandwizard of the KKK in the early 90's. If I was a 4 or 5 star black FB player I certainly would have considered other schools to play football for other than LSU. i.e. Marshall Faulk, Warrick Dunn, etc.
Posted on 2/1/10 at 2:08 pm to jrich11
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im guessing that he didnt coach up the team that won a national championship in 07?
This.
Figure head on the sideline. Flynn didn't need coaching/babysitting...Pelini on Def...nothing needed to be done. Except he did coach us up to lose at UK, and the Arkansas game...backed into the Nat'l Championship. If you don't see it now....wow...
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probably didnt even go to les's practices huh? probably just hung out in tigerland all day for 3 years and waited to show everyone what nick taught em? give me a break.
I don't think anyone knows what goes on in practice. #110 in the NCAA on offense....109 other teams have better talent on offense than we do?
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give me a break.
Give me a break.
8-8 in the SEC...that's .500 Junior over the last 2 seasons. Middle of the road SEC Team. Thanks for playing.
This post was edited on 2/1/10 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 2/1/10 at 2:11 pm to LaBR4
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igure head on the sideline. Flynn didn't need coaching/babysitting...Pelini on Def...nothing needed to be done.
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Except he did coach us up to lose at UK, and the Arkansas game...
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