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re: will Churphy Steward 2010 DT Breaux Br. ever be a Tiger?
Posted on 1/26/10 at 8:00 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Posted on 1/26/10 at 8:00 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
How'd you end up in Bayonne, NJ?
Posted on 1/26/10 at 8:32 pm to DocJerome
He will be going to Hinds CC
Posted on 1/26/10 at 8:56 pm to TIGERFAN31
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He will be going to Hinds CC
Great. I really do wish him well. I was born in Lafayette and raised in both St. Martinville and Lafayette. I have a lot of family in the area so I feel a kinship with folks from that area of Louisiana. Good luck to him. Thanks for the update.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 9:26 pm to DocJerome
What are the LHSAA requirements? I know they are much lower than the NCAA, like a 2.0 at the highest maybe even 1.5. That's why you see guys playing in high school with no problems but no shot to qualify by NCAA standards. And sadly most high school coaches/teachers are only worried about them doing enough to suit up on Friday nights.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 9:29 pm to MOT
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1.5
and when they tried to raise it to 2.0 everyone threw a shite fit.
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And sadly most high school coaches/teachers are only worried about them doing enough to suit up on Friday nights.
definitely. In most cases you can tell early whether or not a kid can play in college, so why aren't they on these kids in their frosh and soph years to get their shite straight? Although, by then they probably havent been doing jack shite anyway, so they don't know how to apply themselves.
Posted on 1/26/10 at 9:33 pm to 7 Moves
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He needs a good advisor/ coach to help him in JUCO -- the kid is amazing, but his academics are sad.
No he needs better parents. A good advisor/coach? Really? How about Mom and Dad busting his arse?
Posted on 1/26/10 at 11:34 pm to JJ27
maybe mom and dad aren't around? don't quote me saying they aren't in this case, but they're not always there...
Posted on 1/27/10 at 7:48 am to lsutothetop
How many kids has Breaux Bridge sent to play football at LSU? Off the top of my head: Domanick Davis, Jessie Daniels, Jonathon Zenon, Charles Alexander, John Williams. Did any of these have trouble qualifying? Some people need to stop putting the blame on the coaches and teachers at Breaux Bridge HS and tell Mr. Steward to take a good look in the mirror. You can only help a person so much. The kid has to want to succeed and put forth at least some effort. It's a shame that Churphy didn't realize that.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 9:07 am to jdawg
BOOM!! Excellent post jdawg!! You know exactly, or seem to know what's going on with Churphy. I've seen every game of his high school playing days. A resounding yes for WHEN/IF he wants to play during the game relative to nobody being able to block him. I've watched him long enough, and this is coming from a Breaux Bridge HS fan, to say this with a clear concious...if I were LSU I would not waste a scholarship on him. You never know what you're going to get from day to day with him!! His on the field performance substantiates this. I have seen personally and also heard way too many things for me to not say this.
Yes he CAN be an animal when/IF he wants too. Other than that,.....I'll stop right there.
Yes he CAN be an animal when/IF he wants too. Other than that,.....I'll stop right there.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:29 am to nvcowboyfan
to nvcowboy: The problem with the system you suggest is that it perpetuates socioeconomic patterns that tend to restrict choices for kids in underserved communities. Most kids at that age will follow the path their parents followed without really considering college as a realisitic option. There is a ton of untapped talent in these underserved communities, and the last thing we need to be doing is tracking them into vocations simply because they don't fully appreciate their options. I agree that better counseling is needed, but before you dismiss my points as nothing more than PC crap, try teaching 8th grade for a few years.
This post was edited on 1/27/10 at 10:32 am
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:49 am to DocJerome
having C's in high school doesnt mean he can handle the ACT.
This has been a long time brewing.
As noted by previous poster, one might have prayed/hoped that his coaches would have steered him into the library, earlier on.
The best LSU fans can hope for is that he graduates from a JC and then plays one FALL semester for LSU, in 2012, and then, as a junior, he will go pro.
Dandy Don made the same observations as one prior poster, ie
NO ONE CAN BLOCK HIM ONE ON ONE.
This has been a long time brewing.
As noted by previous poster, one might have prayed/hoped that his coaches would have steered him into the library, earlier on.
The best LSU fans can hope for is that he graduates from a JC and then plays one FALL semester for LSU, in 2012, and then, as a junior, he will go pro.
Dandy Don made the same observations as one prior poster, ie
NO ONE CAN BLOCK HIM ONE ON ONE.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:53 am to jdawg
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How many kids has Breaux Bridge sent to play football at LSU? Off the top of my head: Domanick Davis, Jessie Daniels, Jonathon Zenon, Charles Alexander, John Williams. Did any of these have trouble qualifying? Some people need to stop putting the blame on the coaches and teachers at Breaux Bridge HS and tell Mr. Steward to take a good look in the mirror. You can only help a person so much. The kid has to want to succeed and put forth at least some effort. It's a shame that Churphy didn't realize that.
this...bigtime.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:54 am to hogeb
To the slightly off-topic question of where the system went wrong, (such that great prospects face JC, rather than an open door at the flagship U of the state):
Once upon a time, I was teaching 6th grade. My students had been priorly tested. Included among them: 80 IQ, 70 IQ, a couple of 65 IQ and a pair of 50 IQ kids.
After just one week of my mentoring, they all passed their weekly exams.
My guess is that no one ever told them they could do the work.
Everyone can do the work. It just takes time (applying oneself), and a good mentor/coach.
To master any skill it takes 2,500 hours practice and a good mentor coach.
Every minute watching TV is one less available for math.
Once upon a time, I was teaching 6th grade. My students had been priorly tested. Included among them: 80 IQ, 70 IQ, a couple of 65 IQ and a pair of 50 IQ kids.
After just one week of my mentoring, they all passed their weekly exams.
My guess is that no one ever told them they could do the work.
Everyone can do the work. It just takes time (applying oneself), and a good mentor/coach.
To master any skill it takes 2,500 hours practice and a good mentor coach.
Every minute watching TV is one less available for math.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:55 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
It is not jsut grades!!!
you have to score a certain level on the ACT among other tests.
you have to score a certain level on the ACT among other tests.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 11:16 am to jdawg
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How many kids has Breaux Bridge sent to play football at LSU? Off the top of my head: Domanick Davis, Jessie Daniels, Jonathon Zenon, Charles Alexander, John Williams. Did any of these have trouble qualifying? Some people need to stop putting the blame on the coaches and teachers at Breaux Bridge HS and tell Mr. Steward to take a good look in the mirror. You can only help a person so much. The kid has to want to succeed and put forth at least some effort. It's a shame that Churphy didn't realize that.
Dawg, he is going to school to get an education, . . . to ultimately take advantage of opportunities his parents did not have. For all the collective man hours spent taking classes to understand the psychology of educating 14-18 year olds, not one educator in Breaux Bridge sought to pull the kid aside to lay out a path for his future which should have included a studying regimen, monitoring, counseling and communication with his parents or guardian.
Everyone does not walk into school with the same experiences, so to put all the responsibility on the kid, is a cop out. Football should have been directly tied to his academic success, without any exceptions. Set the threshold-standard for eligibility to play football and he qualifies. But the standard can't be, just show up for class. That is why we demand certification for teachers, principals, etc. They should have recognized this kid was at risk and done their jobs.
This post was edited on 1/27/10 at 11:17 am
Posted on 1/27/10 at 11:56 am to DocJerome
What more do you want the teachers and coaches to do? He was given every opportunity you could possibly ask for. The help was availible, he just didn't take it. Trust me, I know a lot more than you think about this one. The vast majority of the blame for Churphy Steward not qualifying is on Churphy Steward.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 12:14 pm to jdawg
Trust me, I hear you on this. But now, it is definitely all on him. He will sink or swim now, because he is of legal age and expected to take responsibility for his immediate future, no matter the circumstances. Good luck to him.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 12:22 pm to DocJerome
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How does something like that happen? How was he eligible to play football if he didn't have the grades? How is he graduating if he is not at minimum, eligible to attend the state's public-flagship university? I think the teachers in Breaux Bridge have a lot to answer for. They have done Churphy and the citizens of the state a disservice.
I know of a kid who was in special Ed. and received a certificate of completion and participated in sports. Later he passed the Ged test and went to a Jr. college and later signed with a Div.1 school. He then went on to play professionally in Europe. You ask how does it happen? There was a player at USC who was illiterate and the players on the team would have to read the menu to him when they went out to eat. It happens more than you think. The kid that I know about had a full scale IQ of 62. Maybe Churphy Steward is severely learning disabled and that is the reason for his academic situation.
This post was edited on 1/27/10 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 1/27/10 at 1:07 pm to DocJerome
What if I told you jdawg was DEAD ON ACCURATE with his assesment about churphy? Believe me, and jdawg also, that when we tell you this falls completely into churphys lap!! His potential was recognized early in his career and was told and instructed on what needed to be done!! An educator can only do so much. However, when you have a student (the following is a KNOWN FACT ABOUT Churphy!!) that constantly goes to class and sleeps throughout the WHOLE class, what do you want the eductator to do? It will eventually show prejudice to an athlete relative to other students that are actually trying to learn AND becomes a distraction all at the same time. This kid was given chances beyond your wildest imagination to get his grades in order early on!! Bless his heart but to put it mildly, the kid is jus flat out lazy!! And that includes practices and several games throughout his career!! The POTENTIAL for him to be a high school all American was always there. Coaches and teachers can only do so much and the rest is up to the kids and parents!!
There's more to this than you thinking/believing his was not given help along the way!!
Jdawg is extremely accurate with this one and so am I!!
There's more to this than you thinking/believing his was not given help along the way!!
Jdawg is extremely accurate with this one and so am I!!
Posted on 1/27/10 at 2:35 pm to TIGERFAN31
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He will be going to Hinds CC
I would be willing to bet that Churphy did not pass the high school exit examination and received a certificate of completion and not a diploma. Typically, students planning to attend a community college or Jr college should not be adversely affected by only earning a certificate instead of a diploma. Community colleges and Jr colleges offer plenty of remedial classes if a student has not quite mastered some high school level skills, and if the student does well at a community college or Jr college transferring to a four year university won't hinge on whether the student earned a high school diploma. Again, I would be willing to bet he has a certificate of completion and not a diploma.
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