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For all those calling for Miles' head...

Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:47 pm
Posted by Buda
Member since Nov 2009
408 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:47 pm
Yes, I hate that stupiod loss.

Yes I hate going 7-8 in th elast 15 SEC games.

yes we should do better with the athletes we have.

But, four things make me want to give Miles some loyalty:

1) He genrally seems to be a good guy. makes bad calls in games sometimes, but ALWAYS owns up to it. Handled the Ryan Perriloux (and other discipline issues) appropriately Just a stand-up guy.

2) He does recruit well - top 5 classes almost every year he's been here. Even a poor on-the-field coach will succeed as long as that keeps up.

3) He has won a national championship. yes I know some will say he did it with Saban's players or he got lucky a few times that season. But, nonetheless, he has won it all - no many coaches can say that - period.

4) Finally, he showed loyalty to LSU. When he could have gone to (or at least talked to) Michigan, he stayed at LSU and won the championship. And he hadnled it with true class.

He's a good guy and in many ways a good coach. I say he desreves our backing for at least one more season. Maybe Croton has to go, but I will continue to support Miles.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:47 pm to
duck
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34400 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:48 pm to
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Finally, he showed loyalty to LSU. When he could have gone to (or at least talked to) Michigan, he stayed at LSU and won the championship. And he hadnled it with true class.
He used LSU to up his contract.
Posted by Simplemaaan
Member since Sep 2007
4060 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:49 pm to
What's up Les?
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21949 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:49 pm to
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He genrally seems to be a good guy.


Totally irrelevant.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82708 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:49 pm to
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He genrally seems to be a good guy

Being a good guy can get left at the players/coaches entrance gate
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He does recruit well

So did Orgeron
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He has won a national championship

So did Larry Coker
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Finally, he showed loyalty to LSU. When he could have gone to (or at least talked to) Michigan, he stayed at LSU and won the championship. And he hadnled it with true class.

He stayed here because LSU outbid them
Posted by loustuni
Member since Jul 2008
4184 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:50 pm to
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makes bad calls in games sometimes, but ALWAYS owns up to it


So some how this fricking makes it ok !!

I don't get that . you frick up and say im sorry for the 50th time and oh its ok !!
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39868 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:51 pm to
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He genrally seems to be a good guy


Good guys doesn't translate in to wins on the football field.

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Handled the Ryan Perriloux


Should have never went after him. He knew of his off the field issues.

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He does recruit well


Yes, he does, but he doesn't coach well.

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He has won a national championshi


Yes, no doubt, but he did back his way into it. He can thank Pittsburgh beating W. Virginia, because he didn't have his team prepared to beat one dimensional Arkansas at home.

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Finally, he showed loyalty to LSU


He is a "yes" man. It's part of the reason why he got the job. Well that, and he was initially offered just over $1 million dollars a year to be the coach of an LSU football team, loaded with talent.

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I say he desreves our backing for at least one more season.


I'll support LSU, but I don't support Coach Miles.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44734 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:51 pm to
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makes bad calls in games sometimes, but ALWAYS owns up to it.

Didn't this week.

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He does recruit well - top 5 classes almost every year he's been here. Even a poor on-the-field coach will succeed as long as that keeps up.

Zook.
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He has won a national championship.

So did Larry Coker.
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Finally, he showed loyalty to LSU.

Hallman and DiNardo showed loyalty to LSU. They would still be here if they could milk LSU.
Posted by irish thug 527
Member since Apr 2008
553 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:53 pm to
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I don't get that . you frick up and say im sorry for the 50th time and oh its ok !!


Seriously. shite. Hire me then. I'll do it for 30K a year. We can use the rest of the money to hire good assistants. Every time we lose a game I'll say, "it's my fault, I know hardly anything about being a football coach." Then some of these idiots would probably love me too.
This post was edited on 11/23/09 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Buda
Member since Nov 2009
408 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:53 pm to
I'm just saying he deserves some loyalty. I'd say if he doesn't produce (maybe SEC Championship) next year, I'd have to agree he needs to be replaced.

But I'm willing to give the guy some loyalty for now...
Posted by LaTx Tigerfans
Bates Motel
Member since Dec 2006
1815 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:54 pm to
forget it buda, most everybody on here knows it all, and/or has never made mistakes in their lives
Posted by loustuni
Member since Jul 2008
4184 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:54 pm to
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But I'm willing to give the guy some loyalty for now


then you will be disappointed time and time again
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82708 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:56 pm to
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and/or has never made mistakes in their lives

Nice, if I made monumental mistakes like that at my place of employment I would be fired
Posted by Polar Bear
Member since Oct 2009
1800 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:57 pm to
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1) He genrally seems to be a good guy.


I'm a good guy. Does that make me an amazing, or better yet, competent, head football coach?

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2) He does recruit well


So did Ron Zook.

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3) He has won a national championship


Larry Coker has one as well. Keep in mind Les backed into his. All he had to do was beat unranked Arkansas at home. He didn't. Fortunately, the stars and planets aligned to let us in...

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4) Finally, he showed loyalty to LSU


I'm loyal to LSU. A lot of people are. Again, back to #1, this has NOTHING to do with being a competent football coach.



The reason this program will continue to sink is not solely because of Miles - it's because of these soft, indifferent fans who want to keep Miles because's he's a "gentleman" and don't mind losing 3-4 games a year and being second tier to the likes of Alabama.




This post was edited on 11/23/09 at 10:00 pm
Posted by Buda
Member since Nov 2009
408 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 9:59 pm to
1) Shouldn't have gone after Perriloux? Are you kidding? every school in the country went after him. If college coaches shied away from kids with issues, half of the great players would've never gotten a chance.

2) So he backed into the championship - so what? He got there and won it. Doesn't matter how.

3) Somebody else said he didn't own up to it. I believ at the press conference he started out by saying: "It's MY fault. I AM responsible." That would be owning up to it, I think...
Posted by jesterJ
Near the Northern Lights
Member since Nov 2009
892 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 10:00 pm to
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Nice, if I made monumental mistakes like that at my place of employment I would be fired


So true for the majority of the working class. It is all about money and the LSU nation will shrink, I gaurantee you that. The younger crowd will back away from the program. The recruiting will take bad hits because of the media over exposing things like that on National Television. Do the TAF and the A.D. really understand this?
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82708 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 10:01 pm to
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So true for the majority of the working class.

People love to resort to the "I BET YOU'VE NEVER MADE A MISTAKE IN YOUR WHOLE LIFE" argument, lol...its like no, if I messed up like that I would be fired and looking for another job
Posted by richbad
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
1220 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 10:02 pm to
Buda your a fricken idiot. That just shows you how much you know about the game of football if you think Les Miles is a good football coach. The stupid son of a buck looks absolutly lost on the sideline. Any time your football team is still making first game mistakes at the end of the year is a bad coached football team. His time is up as far as im concerned.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21949 posts
Posted on 11/23/09 at 10:02 pm to
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Shouldn't have gone after Perriloux? Are you kidding? every school in the country went after him.


If Saban wouldn't have left, Perrilloux would have never been at LSU. We'd probably have Colt McCoy running our offense right now.
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