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re: would Miles let JL transfer to a SEC school?

Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:42 pm to
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One or two series a game doesn't kill any momentum



bullshite it does, especially with the new rules cutting down on the plays the last few years.


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LSU who hasn't had any offensive momentum save for one game this year.



All the more reason for our starter--whoever that may be--to stay in the game.
Posted by JOHNN
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:42 pm to
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Just would like to point out the obvious fact to some of you ignorant LSU fans. JL was a redshirt freshman, who was thrown to the wolves of the SEC before his time. For someone who believes that JL is the worst QB ever to play at LSU, compare his stats to the rest of the good SEC quarterbacks in their first years.

Peyton Manning 1994
89/144 1141 11 TD 6 INT 61.8% completion

Eli Manning 2000
16/33 170 0 TD 1 INT 48.5%

Mathew Stafford 2006 (#1 Draft Pick in 2009)
135/256 1749 7 TD 13 INT 12 Sacks 52.7 %

Jarrett Lee 2008
143/269 1873 13 TD 16 INT 8 Sacks 53.2%

Wow compared to other sec quarterbacks who play in the NFL, Jarrett Lee doesn't look so bad for being thrown to the wolves, maybe some people should look at stats and not dwell on the 6 INT's for TD's and actually look at the yardage and how he helped us come back to beat Troy, Auburn, etc. yet not to take anything away from Jefferson, he has done well enough not to turn the ball over, but far from excellent has he been, especially with the fact that he is supposed to be the more talented running QB and still has been sacked 23 times this year compared to JL's 8 sacks! the common theme would be to utilize the talent we have on the team and allow JJ to see how the defense reacts to situations and have both QB's work together such as Chris Leak and Tim Tebow in Tebow's first title run.


Thatd be wonderful if Les would actually do that but he wont. When Lee had to run the 2 min offense the guy was money. We saw this in the Aub and Troy games. But when he is under center and had too much time to think about everything thats when he started to break down.

With the receivers we have right now Id love to see Lee go in the 2 min offense the entire game. Id be like the old days of Spurriers "fun n gun" offense. Plus itd wear down defenses and not allow them to make alot of substitutions which could cause some great mismatches. But thatd be too simple and make too much sense right?

JJ WAS handed the starting position by Miles last year and everyone knows it. Could you imagine the backlash we wouldve heard all year long if Lee was named the starter at the beginning of the year? Itd be worse than it already is now. Miles is doing what he has to do in order to keep the fan base happy and barely win games.
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:43 pm to
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i would hate to see an arm like JL get wasted away on the bench. He could be a high draft pick if he gets playing time under the right system.


Uh, please define "high draft pick-six," sorry, I meant "high draft pick."
Posted by GR CHAMP
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:47 pm to
(JJ WAS handed the starting position by Miles last year and everyone knows it)

Someone left me out the loop!!! DAMM
Posted by pilsnerpusher
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:48 pm to
back to the question, no I don't think Miles would let him transfer to another SEC school.

Miles seems to try to do right by his players, even the ones leaving, but I think he would draw the line on this one.

Now,if Lee were from florida or South carolina I think he would allow him to transfer to a school in one of those states even if they were in the SEC so that he could be closer to home (precedent set with Phelon Jones).

Are there instances of him allowing a kid to transfer to an SEC not in his home state?
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:50 pm to
Very few guys have transferred to comparable schools from LSU because they are usually not good enough to play here (or have gotten in trouble).

Keeping in mind that Lee would only have one year of eligibility left, I don't see why he would transfer within the FBS.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:52 pm to
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NFL backups have played thru college, pre season games and many have extensive game experience.



That's not it at all. It's because YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. You are advocating playing an inferior player over a superior one in a close, SEC game for the sole purpose of preparing for something that may never even happen anyway. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:55 pm to

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bullshite it does, especially with the new rules cutting down on the plays the last few years.





Strictly your opinion.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:55 pm to
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You've determined this based on his handing off to Stevan Ridley against Tulane?


No Dumbass, I'm talking about the opportunity in games to throw passes...when he has gotten a shot he has looked good..if you want to talk about practice go talk to Allen Iverson...

I guess you never played sports, and if you did, you were probably a "practice guy" if you dont know what that means, then go back to my earlier statement, you didnt play sports..

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I don't see it. You know why?


yes, I know why, cause your a dumbass...

and if you dont know what it means by "the game moving to fast" go back to my earlier statement, you probably didnt play sports...

I suppose next your gonna say the SEC officiating has been terrific this year.

fricking idiot...
Posted by johnsec
Los Angeles/Lafayette
Member since Sep 2009
845 posts
Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:56 pm to
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Please tell me what he has done to earn any PT?


Yeah, I'm waiting for the answer(s) to that question.

Some folks were earlier discussing if K. Williams could play in the NFL, and a lot said "no." But J. Lee (a high-round draft pick) and playing in the NFL, you have gotta be kidding me!

There are several more pages on this thread, so if this a joke, pls. let us know now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:56 pm to

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That's not it at all. It's because YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. You are advocating playing an inferior player over a superior one in a close, SEC game for the sole purpose of preparing for something that may never even happen anyway. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me



I highly doubt there is much of a quality difference between JJ and Lee.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/1/09 at 11:58 pm to
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Plus itd wear down defenses



You're right--mainly our own.


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JJ WAS handed the starting position by Miles last year



Is that some kind of plaque? Trophy, perhaps? Bathroom key?


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everyone knows it



Well, I don't know it, and I'm quite sure I'm part of "everyone."



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Miles is doing what he has to do in order to keep the fan base happy



Have you not been paying attention the last 5 years? Miles doesn't care about keeping the fanbase happy.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/2/09 at 12:03 am to
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Keys Open Doors






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TigerFan55555



Posted by GR CHAMP
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/2/09 at 12:03 am to
(No Dumbass, I'm talking about the opportunity in games to throw passes...when he has gotten a shot he has looked good)


Front runner for hesiman!!
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/2/09 at 12:06 am to
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I highly doubt there is much of a quality difference between JJ and Lee.



Oh, I agree here for sure. I just think winning the current game is infinitely more important than getting somebody ready fora possible "worst case" scenario. And so far the coaches think Jefferson gives us the best chance to do that.
Posted by tigerpaw08716
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/2/09 at 12:10 am to
To be a back up like Matt Cassel u would first have to have a starting QB like Tom Brady and Jordan Jefferson will never be a good qb. Hes like a Jamarcus Russel all looks and no play
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263364 posts
Posted on 11/2/09 at 12:14 am to
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Jefferson will never be a good qb. Hes like a Jamarcus Russel all looks and no play



I disagree. Well, Jamarcus was a helluva college player, JJ could be as well. He has a great upside, just don't think we will see it this year.

Don't know if he has the potential NOW to win vs the Alabamas and FLoridas. Some day, he could. He has potential.
This post was edited on 11/2/09 at 12:17 am
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9605 posts
Posted on 11/2/09 at 12:15 am to
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Jordan Jefferson will never be a good qb. Hes like a Jamarcus Russel all looks and no play


well good luck Tiger paw we got a couple of JJ dick suckers in here who believe everything Miles says. (Hot Carl and GR Champ)i'm out
Posted by GR CHAMP
Member since Dec 2006
726 posts
Posted on 11/2/09 at 12:17 am to
Tell your mom I said good night!!
Posted by GR CHAMP
Member since Dec 2006
726 posts
Posted on 11/2/09 at 12:21 am to
(To be a back up like Matt Cassel u would first have to have a starting QB like Tom Brady and Jordan Jefferson will never be a good qb.)

This bolds well for Lee
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