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Mine that Bird -VS- Secretariat
Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:01 pm
Who would you bet on? (if both were in their prime)
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Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:03 pm to Willem Dafoe
Secretariat
Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:04 pm to BayouBengals03
Secretariat
Mine that Bird vs Rachel Alezandra?
Mine that Bird vs Rachel Alezandra?
Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:05 pm to Willem Dafoe
Secretariat
Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:14 pm to Willem Dafoe
Wouldn't it be easy to look up their actual track times?
Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:22 pm to Willem Dafoe
secretariat...this shouldnt even be a discussion
Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:24 pm to mburne4
Secretariat would own any horse past, present, future...will never been another like him.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:39 pm to BraveTiger225
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Secretariat
No doubt about it.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 1:42 pm to Willem Dafoe
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Secretariat
Really had to ask? Legend in these parts and those in the industry will tell you once in lifetime horse.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 3:16 pm to BraveTiger225
Man O War says hi.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 3:17 pm to Baloo
How's lovely Pimlico doing? I went to the Preakness for work several times. Black Eyed Susans back when I could drink
Posted on 10/20/09 at 3:31 pm to Baloo
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Man O War says hi.
And Secretariat says shut the hell up.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 3:34 pm to genuineLSUtiger
But aren't they breeding horses bigger and faster now than they were in the 60s? Sure he dominated other horses back then but there are a lot of athletes that dominated their sport back then that wouldn't even make a team nowadays.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 3:35 pm to TxTiger25
I actually think Seattle Slew would take Secretariat by 5 furlongs.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 3:38 pm to genuineLSUtiger
Not
Posted on 10/20/09 at 7:15 pm to TxTiger25
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But aren't they breeding horses bigger and faster now than they were in the 60s? Sure he dominated other horses back then but there are a lot of athletes that dominated their sport back then that wouldn't even make a team nowadays.
I was about to say Secretariat for sure until I read this....you have a point...
This post was edited on 10/20/09 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 10/20/09 at 8:54 pm to DanMullenIsOurMan
I mean if you look at track and field athletes now and then there's no comparison, so it would stand to reason horses are faster now too.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 9:00 pm to lsutiger2486
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Wouldn't it be easy to look up their actual track times?
Secretariat
Posted on 10/20/09 at 9:01 pm to TxTiger25
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mean if you look at track and field athletes now and then there's no comparison, so it would stand to reason horses are faster now too.
Check sec's times though. Check the Derby record that still holds up.
Posted on 10/20/09 at 10:21 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Looking at how the times hold up, if I'm correct,
I'm pretty sure Secretariat's mile and a quarter split for the Belmont still would have won every Derby ever run...which is amazing.
Sham, the horse that ran 2nd in the Derby to Secretariat also went under 2 minutes...which would have also won every Derby ever run save for maybe the year Monarchos ran. So he did have decent competition. Sham was a good horse, just unfortunate enough to have been born in the wrong year, like Alydar.
I don't really think horses are faster today. Yeah, obviously there are improvements in tracks, shoes, diets...etc, but I think horses are more fragile today because they are being bred to get high numbers at sales, run a few races, and go to the breeding shed. Most big stakes horses today don't even run 10 races in their whole lives.
On another note, Secretariat was obviously a great horse, but if we are comparing horses from different eras...I think Man o War would have beaten Secretariat and Citation would have given him a run for his money.
I'm pretty sure Secretariat's mile and a quarter split for the Belmont still would have won every Derby ever run...which is amazing.
Sham, the horse that ran 2nd in the Derby to Secretariat also went under 2 minutes...which would have also won every Derby ever run save for maybe the year Monarchos ran. So he did have decent competition. Sham was a good horse, just unfortunate enough to have been born in the wrong year, like Alydar.
I don't really think horses are faster today. Yeah, obviously there are improvements in tracks, shoes, diets...etc, but I think horses are more fragile today because they are being bred to get high numbers at sales, run a few races, and go to the breeding shed. Most big stakes horses today don't even run 10 races in their whole lives.
On another note, Secretariat was obviously a great horse, but if we are comparing horses from different eras...I think Man o War would have beaten Secretariat and Citation would have given him a run for his money.
This post was edited on 10/21/09 at 1:45 pm
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