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re: Tebow won't play - the game just isn't that important

Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:48 pm to
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1. Saban's staff? That's like saying a birth mother who gives up a child for adoption gets credit for the proper rearing of kid. "The kid turned out great...must have had a great birth mother!" Ridiculous. Saban brought em on campus and Miles and his staff coached em. Their devleopment all goes on Miles resume.


I wouldn't say that the development of all of the players goes to Miles. It's more of a function of who spends more time with them. It wasn't until 2006/2007 that I think you could call them Miles' players. Before then, they were still performing mostly on what they learned from Saban.
Posted by MileHigh
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:49 pm to
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Tebow shouldn't play, but not because of your ridiculous reasons...

+1
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:50 pm to
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1. Saban's staff? That's like saying a birth mother who gives up a child for adoption gets credit for the proper rearing of kid. "The kid turned out great.


I'm not saying it's a good analogy here, but the actual evidence seems to strongly suggest that birth parents are almost 100% the explanation for how adopted kids turn out.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:51 pm to
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I'm not saying it's a good analogy here, but the actual evidence seems to strongly suggest that birth parents are almost 100% the explanation for how adopted kids turn out.




THAT IS THE BIGGEST CROCK OF shite I HAVE EVER HEARD. Research suggests that although genetic contribution accounts for a predisposition to certain phenomena it is 100% the responsibility for the environment on whether or not it manifests itself.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:53 pm to
I'm trying to think of which low rated players coming out of HS have really been developed by miles' staff. Lafell is a decent pick, I hadn't thought of him. But OTOH, I also don't see Miles' staff taking reject wide receivers and turning them into first round draft picks at cornerback.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14798 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:53 pm to
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I'm not saying it's a good analogy here, but the actual evidence seems to strongly suggest that birth parents are almost 100% the explanation for how adopted kids turn out.


If you had any credibility left....BOOM!
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:53 pm to
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THAT IS THE BIGGEST CROCK OF shite I HAVE EVER HEARD. Research suggests that although genetic contribution accounts for a predisposition to certain phenomena it is 100% the responsibility for the environment on whether or not it manifests itself.



You're simply wrong. The most powerful predictor of outcomes in adopted children is the birth parents.
Posted by MileHigh
Most likely a mile high
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:53 pm to
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I'm not saying it's a good analogy here, but the actual evidence seems to strongly suggest that birth parents are almost 100% the explanation for how adopted kids turn out.

Hmmm, now we know why you suck so hard.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127231 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:55 pm to
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The most powerful predictor of outcomes in adopted children is the birth parents.

Your birth parents must have been assholes.....
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15054 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:55 pm to
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The most powerful predictor of outcomes in adopted children is the birth parents.
And the most powerful predictor of draft position is recruiting rankings.

BUT it's absurd (and objectively false) to say that recruiting rankings are a 100% predictor of draft status. I really can't speak as to the birth parent assertion, although that smells like bullshite too.
Posted by MileHigh
Most likely a mile high
Member since Jan 2004
7920 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:56 pm to
have we gotten this anchored again.

Money talk people, get out of this thread.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:56 pm to
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Your birth parents must have been assholes.....


Flame much?
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:57 pm to
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You're simply wrong. The most powerful predictor of outcomes in adopted children is the birth parents.


You're simply incompetent. There are literally thousands of studies done that prove exactly the opposite of what you claim.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127231 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:57 pm to
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Money talk people, get out of this thread.
You beat me to it!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127231 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:57 pm to
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Flame much?
Only when it is deserved.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14798 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:58 pm to
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Before then, they were still performing mostly on what they learned from Saban.


Ohhhh...you mean, "scream and demean young men in public and run out on your team when a better offer comes along"? That kind of stuff?

And by the way....with those kind of numbers, Saban gets ZERO credit for any success Bama is having now...after all, they are still performing on what they learned under Shula.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:58 pm to
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BUT it's absurd (and objectively false) to say that recruiting rankings are a 100% predictor of draft status.


I said the adopted kids thing was "almost 100%". That might be slightly overstated, but genetics are by far the most powerful predictor.

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And the most powerful predictor of draft position is recruiting rankings.


Correct. Just like SAT scores are a very good predictor of college outcomes, regardless of how much people don't like to believe that either.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
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Member since Nov 2003
28791 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:58 pm to
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Money talk people, get out of this thread

we are the only reason I'm still posting in here. Money talk people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rantards.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:58 pm to
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Only when it is deserved.


So you do admit to openly violating the board rules?
Posted by MileHigh
Most likely a mile high
Member since Jan 2004
7920 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:58 pm to
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Flame much?

dude, you set yourself up for that one. It was like a hanging curve ball.
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