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Historical Football Comparison: LSU vs. Georgia
Posted on 9/30/09 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 9/30/09 at 10:58 pm
All-Time Records
(including 4 games this season)
UGA: 726-385-54 (.6464)
LSU: 704-383-47 (.6415)
Georgia is #11 all-time in wins, and LSU is #12.
(Southern Cal has 769 wins, making them #10. Auburn is #13 all-time among current major programs, and #14 if Yale's games before it went to I-AA in 1978 are included.)
All-Time SEC Records
(including 2-0 record for each team in 2009)
UGA: 289-189-14 (including 2-1 in SECCG)
LSU: 274-205-22 (including 3-1 in SECCG)
Excluding Georgia Tech, Georgia is #3, and LSU is #5, in terms of all-time SEC winning percentage. Florida is #4.
INTERESTING HISTORICAL NOTE: LSU & Georgia are the only teams to have played 76 full seasons in the SEC. This is because LSU, Georgia, Georgia Tech, and Tulane, were the only SEC teams to play in 1943. In addition to being the only teams playing in their 77th SEC season, LSU & Georgia also started two of the oldest rivalries in the South. The Georgia vs. Auburn rivalry is the oldest, going back to 1892. LSU's first intercollegiate game came in the following spring against Tulane in baseball. In the fall of 1893, LSU played its first football game against Tulane.
SoCo Titles (1922-1932)
UGA: N/A
LSU: 1932
SEC Titles
UGA (12): 1942, 1946, 1948, 1959, 1966, 1968, 1976, 1980, 1981, 1982, 2002, 2005
LSU (10/11): 1935, 1936, 1958, 1961, 1970, 1984*, 1986, 1988, 2001, 2003, 2007
NOTE: Tennessee claims 13 SEC titles (including 1990), and Alabama claims 21 SEC titles.
Dubious National Title Claims
UGA: 1927 (Ill.), 1946 (Army/ND), 1968 (tOSU)
LSU: 1935 (Minn./TCU/SMU), 1936 (Minn.), 1962 (Ole Miss/SCAL)
Solid Pre-1950 National Title Claims
UGA: 1942
LSU: 1908
AP or Coaches' Poll National Title Claims
UGA: 1980
LSU: 1958, 2003, 2007
Bowl Records
UGA: 25–16–3 (#4 all-time in bowl wins)
LSU: 21–18–1 (#10 all-time in bowl wins)
Bowl Records Since 1995 Season
UGA: 10-3
LSU: 10-2
(I'm pretty sure that no other team in the nation has 10 bowl wins since 1995.)
Total Wins Since Start of 2000 Season
1. Oklahoma, 104
2. Boise State, 102
3. Texas, 101
4. Southern Cal, 96
5. Ohio State, 94
5. LSU, 94
7. Georgia, 93
8. Virginia Tech, 92
9. Florida, 91
NOTE: LSU is also tied with Ohio State for 5th in total wins since the start of the 2005 season.
Total SEC Wins Since Start of 2000 Season
1. Florida, 58
2. LSU, 55
2. Georgia, 55
4. Auburn, 51
5. Tennessee, 47
NOTE: LSU is also tied with Georgia for 2nd in SEC wins since the start of the 2005 season.
Top OOC Winning Pct. for SEC Teams, 1995-2009 ( LINK)
(Conference Rank. Team, Overall Record [Regular Season I-A Opponents, I-AA Opponents, Bowl Opponents, 2009 Opponents], Pct.)
1. LSU, 53-8 (38-6, 5-0, 10-2, 2-0), .869
2. Georiga, 53-9 (37-6, 6-0, 10-3, 1-1), .855
3. Auburn, 49-12 (34-8, 8-0, 7-4, 3-0), .803
NOTE: LSU currently has the longest OOC winning streak in the nation at 21 games. The streak is 27 games (going all the way back to the 2002 opener at Virginia Tech) if you don't include bowl games.
Heisman Winners
UGA: Frank Sinkwich (1942); Hershel Walker (1982)
LSU: Billy Cannon (1959)
Largest Stadium Capacities by School
1. Penn State (Beaver Stadium), 107282
2. Michigan (Michigan Stadium), 106201
3. Ohio State (Ohio Stadium), 102329
4. Texas (TX Memorial Stadium), 100119
5. Tennessee (Neyland Stadium), 100011
6. SCAL (LA Memorial Coliseum), 93607
7. Georgia (Sanford Stadium), 92746
8. UCLA (Rose Bowl), 92542
9. LSU (Tiger Stadium), 92400
10. Alabama (Bryant-Denny Stadium), 92138
EDIT: Finally, LSU leads the all-time series against Georgia, 14-12-1. (Tip of the hat to SFTiger.)
(including 4 games this season)
UGA: 726-385-54 (.6464)
LSU: 704-383-47 (.6415)
Georgia is #11 all-time in wins, and LSU is #12.
(Southern Cal has 769 wins, making them #10. Auburn is #13 all-time among current major programs, and #14 if Yale's games before it went to I-AA in 1978 are included.)
All-Time SEC Records
(including 2-0 record for each team in 2009)
UGA: 289-189-14 (including 2-1 in SECCG)
LSU: 274-205-22 (including 3-1 in SECCG)
Excluding Georgia Tech, Georgia is #3, and LSU is #5, in terms of all-time SEC winning percentage. Florida is #4.
INTERESTING HISTORICAL NOTE: LSU & Georgia are the only teams to have played 76 full seasons in the SEC. This is because LSU, Georgia, Georgia Tech, and Tulane, were the only SEC teams to play in 1943. In addition to being the only teams playing in their 77th SEC season, LSU & Georgia also started two of the oldest rivalries in the South. The Georgia vs. Auburn rivalry is the oldest, going back to 1892. LSU's first intercollegiate game came in the following spring against Tulane in baseball. In the fall of 1893, LSU played its first football game against Tulane.
SoCo Titles (1922-1932)
UGA: N/A
LSU: 1932
SEC Titles
UGA (12): 1942, 1946, 1948, 1959, 1966, 1968, 1976, 1980, 1981, 1982, 2002, 2005
LSU (10/11): 1935, 1936, 1958, 1961, 1970, 1984*, 1986, 1988, 2001, 2003, 2007
NOTE: Tennessee claims 13 SEC titles (including 1990), and Alabama claims 21 SEC titles.
Dubious National Title Claims
UGA: 1927 (Ill.), 1946 (Army/ND), 1968 (tOSU)
LSU: 1935 (Minn./TCU/SMU), 1936 (Minn.), 1962 (Ole Miss/SCAL)
Solid Pre-1950 National Title Claims
UGA: 1942
LSU: 1908
AP or Coaches' Poll National Title Claims
UGA: 1980
LSU: 1958, 2003, 2007
Bowl Records
UGA: 25–16–3 (#4 all-time in bowl wins)
LSU: 21–18–1 (#10 all-time in bowl wins)
Bowl Records Since 1995 Season
UGA: 10-3
LSU: 10-2
(I'm pretty sure that no other team in the nation has 10 bowl wins since 1995.)
Total Wins Since Start of 2000 Season
1. Oklahoma, 104
2. Boise State, 102
3. Texas, 101
4. Southern Cal, 96
5. Ohio State, 94
5. LSU, 94
7. Georgia, 93
8. Virginia Tech, 92
9. Florida, 91
NOTE: LSU is also tied with Ohio State for 5th in total wins since the start of the 2005 season.
Total SEC Wins Since Start of 2000 Season
1. Florida, 58
2. LSU, 55
2. Georgia, 55
4. Auburn, 51
5. Tennessee, 47
NOTE: LSU is also tied with Georgia for 2nd in SEC wins since the start of the 2005 season.
Top OOC Winning Pct. for SEC Teams, 1995-2009 ( LINK)
(Conference Rank. Team, Overall Record [Regular Season I-A Opponents, I-AA Opponents, Bowl Opponents, 2009 Opponents], Pct.)
1. LSU, 53-8 (38-6, 5-0, 10-2, 2-0), .869
2. Georiga, 53-9 (37-6, 6-0, 10-3, 1-1), .855
3. Auburn, 49-12 (34-8, 8-0, 7-4, 3-0), .803
NOTE: LSU currently has the longest OOC winning streak in the nation at 21 games. The streak is 27 games (going all the way back to the 2002 opener at Virginia Tech) if you don't include bowl games.
Heisman Winners
UGA: Frank Sinkwich (1942); Hershel Walker (1982)
LSU: Billy Cannon (1959)
Largest Stadium Capacities by School
1. Penn State (Beaver Stadium), 107282
2. Michigan (Michigan Stadium), 106201
3. Ohio State (Ohio Stadium), 102329
4. Texas (TX Memorial Stadium), 100119
5. Tennessee (Neyland Stadium), 100011
6. SCAL (LA Memorial Coliseum), 93607
7. Georgia (Sanford Stadium), 92746
8. UCLA (Rose Bowl), 92542
9. LSU (Tiger Stadium), 92400
10. Alabama (Bryant-Denny Stadium), 92138
EDIT: Finally, LSU leads the all-time series against Georgia, 14-12-1. (Tip of the hat to SFTiger.)
This post was edited on 10/1/09 at 12:41 am
Posted on 9/30/09 at 11:34 pm to bobby bouchet
One thing missing: LSU leads the all-time series 14-12-1.
Posted on 9/30/09 at 11:57 pm to Doc Fenton
Excellent comparison! Would've never thought the programs were that close together...
Amazing...
Amazing...
Posted on 10/1/09 at 6:59 am to Doc Fenton
quote:
SEC Titles UGA (12): 1942, 1946, 1948, 1959, 1966, 1968, 1976, 1980, 1981, 1982, 2002, 2005 LSU (10/11): 1935, 1936, 1958, 1961, 1970, 1984*, 1986, 1988, 2001, 2003, 2007
What's the asterisk for in 1984?
Posted on 10/1/09 at 7:28 am to Stadium Rat
Shooting from the hip here, but I think Florida actually won it in 1984, but was ineligible because of NCAA violations. LSU was co champions with someone else that year.
This post was edited on 10/1/09 at 7:28 am
Posted on 10/1/09 at 7:33 am to alajones
I didn't think it was 84 but maybe it was. I think we had the same record as Florida, but I guess they beat us. The title was taken away, but they didn't name us champions. Pissed me off.
ETA: Florida was 5-0-1, we were 4-1-1. We played in the Sugar Bowl.
ETA: Florida was 5-0-1, we were 4-1-1. We played in the Sugar Bowl.
This post was edited on 10/1/09 at 7:45 am
Posted on 10/1/09 at 8:02 am to Stadium Rat
We were never named SEC champions in 1984. This was when the league only had 6 conference games. Florida was 5-0-1 and LSU was 4-1-1, tying each other 21-21 in LSU's first game that season (also Arnsparger's first game) and Florida's second game after losing a last second 32-20 (the most misleading final score in sports history) to defending national champ Miami in Tampa.
Florida was in hot water with the NCAA all during the offseason for recruiting violations and the investigation spilled overe into the regular season. Florida destroyed Tulane the week after the LSU game and Gator coach Charley Pell "resigned" and Galen Hall was named interim coach.
Early in November of that season the NCAA,Florida and the SEC sorted out the probation and sanctions. They basically went into effect immediately and it was decided at the time Florida would not represent the SEC in the Sugar Bowl should they either win the league outright or share the title.
LSU ,with a chance to secure a share of the SEC title lost to Mississippi State 16-14 in Starkville (the fifth straight loss to State )on the same day Florida beat Kentucky in Lexington to seemingly give Florida its first SEC title. Auburn's loss to Alabama two weeks later put LSU in the Sugar with a 4-1-1 conference record over Auburn's 4-2 mark.
It kept getting weird. First of all during the actual Sugar Bowl game between Nebraska and LSU, the Superdome several times flashed on the scoreboard "CONGRATULATIONS FLORIDA GATORS 1984 SEC CHAMPIONS". But at the SEC meetings in May of 1985 in Destin ,a proposal submitted by Tennessee stated Florida's 1984 SEC football title should be vacated due to NCAA probation. It wasn't unanimous,but it passed and Florida's 1984 title was stripped. To put it mildly ,the Gators were livid and their chancellor (president ?) Marshall Crisler dared any SEC AD or chancellor to take his SEC Champs ring off his hand.
So,1984 just went down as VACATED,and not retroactively awarded to LSU. Oddly enough in 1985 Tennessee and Florida each had 5-1 SEC records (with Tennessee's loss a 17-10 one to Florida),but the Gators' probation was still in effect so Tennessee was the sole SEC champion.
In 1990, a different set of NCAA sanctions had Florida on probation for that season. Again, Florida had the best mark in the league, 6-1 (with a 45-3 loss to Tennessee) and Tennessee was 5-1-1. Again,Tennessee was the SEC Champion and Sugar Bowl representative while Florida was "ineligible."
Florida was in hot water with the NCAA all during the offseason for recruiting violations and the investigation spilled overe into the regular season. Florida destroyed Tulane the week after the LSU game and Gator coach Charley Pell "resigned" and Galen Hall was named interim coach.
Early in November of that season the NCAA,Florida and the SEC sorted out the probation and sanctions. They basically went into effect immediately and it was decided at the time Florida would not represent the SEC in the Sugar Bowl should they either win the league outright or share the title.
LSU ,with a chance to secure a share of the SEC title lost to Mississippi State 16-14 in Starkville (the fifth straight loss to State )on the same day Florida beat Kentucky in Lexington to seemingly give Florida its first SEC title. Auburn's loss to Alabama two weeks later put LSU in the Sugar with a 4-1-1 conference record over Auburn's 4-2 mark.
It kept getting weird. First of all during the actual Sugar Bowl game between Nebraska and LSU, the Superdome several times flashed on the scoreboard "CONGRATULATIONS FLORIDA GATORS 1984 SEC CHAMPIONS". But at the SEC meetings in May of 1985 in Destin ,a proposal submitted by Tennessee stated Florida's 1984 SEC football title should be vacated due to NCAA probation. It wasn't unanimous,but it passed and Florida's 1984 title was stripped. To put it mildly ,the Gators were livid and their chancellor (president ?) Marshall Crisler dared any SEC AD or chancellor to take his SEC Champs ring off his hand.
So,1984 just went down as VACATED,and not retroactively awarded to LSU. Oddly enough in 1985 Tennessee and Florida each had 5-1 SEC records (with Tennessee's loss a 17-10 one to Florida),but the Gators' probation was still in effect so Tennessee was the sole SEC champion.
In 1990, a different set of NCAA sanctions had Florida on probation for that season. Again, Florida had the best mark in the league, 6-1 (with a 45-3 loss to Tennessee) and Tennessee was 5-1-1. Again,Tennessee was the SEC Champion and Sugar Bowl representative while Florida was "ineligible."
Posted on 10/1/09 at 8:16 am to I-59 Tiger
i-59,, the most misleading sports score in history..1979
Bama 3 LSU 0
Bama 3 LSU 0
Posted on 10/3/09 at 9:24 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:
i-59,, the most misleading sports score in history..1979
Bama 3 LSU 0
I disagree. I say the 222-0 GA. Tech win over Cumberland was misleading. It was tight until late.
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