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Posted on 9/17/09 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Capooth
Memphis, TN
Member since Jul 2009
823 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 4:29 pm
I recently graduated from college and have landed a decent paying job. Today I received a phone call from a magazine company that said i was paying for a subscription on my credit card. All I have is a checking card and no payments are being charged to that. I ran a credit check through TransUnion and there are no open credit cards under my name. However, I did notice my credit score is 611 which in not that good. So I was wondering if there is any advice on how to raise my credit score. Thank in advance.
Posted by ManiaTiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
97 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 4:41 pm to
Problem is you got no credit that is why you have a low score. One idea is you can meet with a credit analyst and see what options are available to raise your score. There is a difference from a credit analyst and all those debt consolidation garbage so be careful if you go that route. I would only go that route if you foresee a future purchase coming soon as a good analyst could save you a ton big picture with strategies to increase and manipulate you score

Best idea get a credit card with rewards points use it and pay it off monthly and that should be a good start - I use the hilton honors Amex card and love it
This post was edited on 9/17/09 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Capooth
Memphis, TN
Member since Jul 2009
823 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

Best idea get a credit card with rewards points use it and pay it off monthly and that should be a good start - I use the hilton honors Amex card and love it


Thanks for your reply. Will I have any trouble being approved for a credit card with such a low credit score?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

Will I have any trouble being approved for a credit card with such a low credit score?


It doesn't hurt to try, so long as you don't apply for a bunch at once.

What they'll probably do is give you one with a low limit, $500 or so with a high interest rate. That's okay, it's enough to get started and you don't care about the interest rate since you're paying the balance on time, every time.
Posted by ManiaTiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
97 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 4:49 pm to
Good question...don't know how tight credit limits are right now and many company's were lowering limits on card holders but I didn't hear of any of that at Amex

You may just have to give it a shot and see what happeneds - even a year ago you probably would have been golden but now not sure

As stated above you don't care what the interest is because you won't be carrying balance and of course paying on time...key is just to establish that system of incur and pay debt on time
This post was edited on 9/17/09 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Capooth
Memphis, TN
Member since Jul 2009
823 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 4:55 pm to
Thanks guys your are being extremely helpful! A few more questions, If I do get a credit card with a $500 limit does it matter how much of that $500 I actually use or just the fact that I am making payments on it every month. Whats the typical time it takes to raise ones credit score (I am assuming this is not an easy answer as it probably varies)?
Posted by ManiaTiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
97 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 5:00 pm to
Just my opinion and no facts - With a limit of $500 for example I dont think it will matter to much but I would look to put maybe $250 or less a month on it and not run it to its max

I would think and just pure guessing maybe 2 years of building history can get you in the 700's...during that time you applying for another card or asking for limit to be increased on current card...also if you need to buy a car of course that would be reported but you would have a dirty int. rate
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 5:09 pm to
wow no cards and out of college.. You need to build credit by using it. Getting a car with a cosigner or a card with a low limit to start will help you out a lot.. You want to have 2 tradelines min. Also NEVER go over 50% on the cards and try to keep them under 30%.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40036 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Getting a car with a cosigner


Good idea for him, bad idea for whoever co-signs.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

If I do get a credit card with a $500 limit does it matter how much of that $500 I actually use or just the fact that I am making payments on it every month.


That's an excellent question, actually. In the short term, yes it does, and since $500 is not a lot you will almost certainly get a minor ding just for using it responsibly. If you use, say, more than 30% your credit score will drop a little. This isn't as terrible as it seems though, the amount is nowhere near what it would be if you miss a payment. At this point I wouldn't worry about it, because you are trying to build a good record and you can't do that without buying at least some amount on credit. Take a long view.

After a year or so of paying on time, call up the card issuer and ask for an increase. They'll probably boost it pretty significantly and then it won't be a problem. While you're at it, ask for something else - a reduction in rate (even if you always pay on time it doesn't hurt to ask), free enrollment in a benefit program, whatever.

That's how you build credit. Build a record and then be proactive and ask them for better terms every so often.

Not sure what a "typical" time is but a lot also depends on the market conditions. Right now is very tough, whereas three years ago it was really easy. I'd plan for a few years but test the market every now and then to see.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

You need to build credit by using it.


This. Lenders want to know how you handle money that isn't yours, and if you never borrow they have nothing to go on good or bad. The average isn't great, so establish a good record.

quote:

Getting a car with a cosigner or a card with a low limit to start will help you out a lot


Indeed. And that cosigner is putting a lot of faith in you too, don't screw it up. Personally, I'd think long and hard about cosigning for my own family - Ben Franklin had a great bit of advice on this point. "If you want to make an enemy into a friend, or a friend into an enemy, lend him money." Franklin's Autobiography (an outstanding book, btw) is littered with regrets over loans he'd made to friends.

quote:

You want to have 2 tradelines min. Also NEVER go over 50% on the cards and try to keep them under 30%.


Catman88 apparently works in the loan industry, because this is spot on. 2 tradelines is good. When he says 50% (or 30%) he is talking about totals though, not individual accounts. For example, if you are maxed out on a $500 card and have no balance at all on a $10000 card, you're fine. Your total utilization rate is still only 5%.
Posted by Capooth
Memphis, TN
Member since Jul 2009
823 posts
Posted on 9/17/09 at 10:28 pm to
Thanks for the great advice everyone. This has been extremely helpful and enlightening. I am going to try an apply for a credit card within the next week or so and if i get approved for that then I will sign up for one more. I will use them enough to build my credit score up while paying each bill on time without missing and that should have me on my way. Man I love TD.com

Thanks again!!
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Catman88 apparently works in the loan industry


Work for a bank but I do all the major computer programming.. More of a result of having to know the requirments for the job than being a loan officer or anything. Before I started working here I wouldnt be able to tell you what my credit score was even.. But yes the under 30% is for all credit since the fico will look at overall debt to credit ratio. Personally I think there needs to be a included debt to INCOME ratio in credit scores but I guess we will never get that cause its apparently not PC to actually not lend money to people that dont make a lot of it.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25866 posts
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:30 am to
wife and I had the same problem when we got married and finished college. Neither of us had any loans or credit cards. We had money in the bank but no credit is just as bad as bad credit. Got turned down for several cards. Finally got one with my bank. Took about 5 years but now have excellent credit and can get approved for pretty much anything.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 9/18/09 at 10:03 am to
Oh just wanted to add...

Many car dealerships will loan you a car with no credit check for new college grads. I know they did this when I got out of college Im not so sure they still do this, or whether I would advocate you going into debt for a car not knowing your financial situation but that may still be an option to build some credit without a cosigner.



Posted by WM88
West Monroe
Member since Aug 2004
1993 posts
Posted on 9/18/09 at 3:28 pm to
Credit Score is built over time. Don't be in a big hurry to try and get it up because doing so can bring it down in a hurry.

Good examples already brought up in this thread (and others)
* Credit card with reward points
* Auto
* No interest furniture purchases. 12 months no interest from a reputable finance company will likely go on your credit report
Posted by Phate
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
11798 posts
Posted on 9/18/09 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Good idea for him, bad idea for whoever co-signs.


Everyone is different. If he's responsible then won't it help the co-signer since the loan will show up on their credit as being paid every month? My mom co-signed on my car loan when I got out of college and I haven't missed a payment. You just have to be careful with who you co-sign for.
Posted by BamaMan45
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
1695 posts
Posted on 9/18/09 at 9:12 pm to
Just wanted to say thanks for the advice to numerous posters in this thread. I'm also a college student and while I am not looking to buy a new car/house or anything like that in the near future, I have been wanting to try and build a little more credit b/c I'll be graduating in a year. I've had an Express (clothing store) card for a couple years now (I didn't know what I was getting at the time, but have religiously paid it off when it was used) and that's helped my score some. I checked it back in June and it was around 785. (Two of the 3 were 785, I think the Equifax was 783 but I can't remember for sure.)

Anyway, I was thinking about getting a gas card through Exxon or Shell (whichever one is the better option, though I'm not sure which) just to help build a little more credit. My friends make fun of me all the time, b/c I HATE using cards to purchase anything and would rather use cash, but I figured getting a credit card just for gas would be safe and smart. Is this a good idea, or should I just stick with another card that has rewards and use it strictly for gas?
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