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Posted on 6/10/09 at 8:41 pm
Posted by techdawg88
West Monroe
Member since Nov 2008
531 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 8:41 pm
One of the best Clint Eastwood movies he has
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
21346 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 8:50 pm to
It was so so.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 8:52 pm to
Watched Escape from Alcatraz last night...Forgot how much I enjoyed that movie
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40941 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 9:28 pm to
I liked most of it, but I do think it was HIGHLY overrated.

I also felt the ending was weak. There is simply no way he could know that ALL of the bad guys would do what they did. He had no way to be sure the outcome would end like that with all the bad guys. Overly contrived shoehorned ending in my book.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60678 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

There is simply no way he could know that ALL of the bad guys would do what they did. He had no way to be sure the outcome would end like that with all the bad guys. Overly contrived shoehorned ending in my book


SPOILERS BELOW:







If you mean he couldn't know they'd all shoot, he didn't have to, he only need 1 of them to shoot.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 9:40 pm to
I'm with u on the ending tiger myth. But I really enjoyed it and thought it lived up to the hype. It was funnier than I ever expected
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40941 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 9:42 pm to
That is not the least bit true.

A bad lawyer could get the other guys off. If one guy in a house pulls the trigger, the others would be out of jail in no time and would seek revenge on the Asian family.


Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40941 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 9:46 pm to
He also had no way to know the entire gang would be home. There were simply way too many variables for him to try such an insane way to end the threat.

Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66362 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 9:47 pm to
How the asians in this movie did not win acting Oscars still baffles me.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
19749 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 9:52 pm to
Definitely a good movie. One of my favorites of 2008.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60678 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:06 pm to
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If one guy in a house pulls the trigger, the others would be out of jail in no time


All could be charged, also what are the chances the guns they have on them are legal? No drugs or anything else they can be charged with?

quote:

He also had no way to know the entire gang would be hom

I'll grant you that, then again, maybe he waited outside until he saw they were all there.
This post was edited on 6/10/09 at 10:08 pm
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40941 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:11 pm to
They would have been charged for weapons not murder, but they probably would have been released on bail and they would have come back to the neighborhood. Raped the daughter, killed the family and burned the house down.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60678 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:17 pm to
I don't know about Michigan law, but i some states they could be charged as accomplishes or all charged with 2nd degree murder since I'm also going to guess, they are not going to say who did the actually shooting if it was only 1 guy. Its also not that much of a stretch to assume more than one would fire at him as he reached inside his jacket.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40941 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:26 pm to
They would have the gun and prints of the guy that did it. They wouldn't need the one person to come forward.

By the way, that is the next thing. They blow Clint away and then just sat there and waited to be arrested instead of leaving the scene.

I am sorry, I liked the movie up until the end, but it was way too contrived and shoehorned into that ending.
Posted by SeattleTiger19
Member since Oct 2007
4537 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:31 pm to
If the Asian gangsters had bigger roles it would have been bad because they were way overboard with bad acting.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60678 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

They would have the gun and prints of the guy that did it


eventually, also assuming he didn't wipe off the gun, but could still take month's.
quote:

They blow Clint away and then just sat there and waited to be arrested instead of leaving the scene.


Oh, yeah, well, there is that, Thanks for the buzz kill

quote:

I am sorry, I liked the movie up until the end, but it was way too contrived and shoehorned into that ending.


That's how I've always felt about " A Few Good Men"


This post was edited on 6/10/09 at 10:55 pm
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83065 posts
Posted on 6/10/09 at 11:08 pm to
worst acting in recent memory
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 6/11/09 at 1:49 am to
quote:


I also felt the ending was weak. There is simply no way he could know that ALL of the bad guys would do what they did. He had no way to be sure the outcome would end like that with all the bad guys. Overly contrived shoehorned ending in my book.



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You missed part of the point of the ending. It wasn't simply "Ill have them all shoot at me and then they'll all get charged for murdering me.

Walt had become a neighborhood figure when he was shot by even 1 member of the gang it turned the community against the gang. Thus they broke the code of silence that had kept the police from being able to charge them in other murders. So even if only 1 member had shot Walt other community members would come forward and give testimony on other criminal acts that gang had committed.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40941 posts
Posted on 6/11/09 at 6:58 am to
SPOILERS SPOILEERS SPOILERS




If it was only one, the rest of the gang would have raped and murdered the Asian girl and killed the family in retribution.

You can make all the arguments you want, the ending was weak and shoehorned in to fit the ending Clint wanted.

All of them pulling weapons and shooting him was weak, bit it was done for a reason. It was the only way the script could work at the end. Otherwise Clint was throwing away his life just to have one guy put away.

And it is also very weak that they just sat around waiting to be arrested.

I will say it again. I enjoyed the film up until the weak contrived shoehorned nonsensical ending.

Clint didn't want a cliched, old gunslinger ending, but moving away from that he came up with a BS ending that would never have saved the Asian family from future retribution.

This post was edited on 6/11/09 at 8:42 am
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22186 posts
Posted on 6/11/09 at 10:02 am to
quote:

worst acting in recent memory

+millions

It was a good concept and Clint was great.

But, HOLY shite the asians in this movie were TERRIBLE actors! I almost couldnt watch when that asian boy was in a scene

When Clint locked him in the basement, and he screamed, i wanted to puke it was so awful
This post was edited on 6/11/09 at 10:03 am
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