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Nice article On Former LSU Pitcher Ben McDonald (USA TODAY)
Posted on 6/2/09 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 6/2/09 at 11:39 pm
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Posted on 6/2/09 at 11:46 pm to bayourant
Just read it earlier good read......... 
Posted on 6/2/09 at 11:58 pm to bayourant
Before people call him a bust they need to read this article. He was still an above .500 pitcher (78-70) with a 3.91 ERA during the start of the steroid era. He was on his a way to a 20 win season when the strike hit (he had 14 wins with 12 starts left). Injuries did him in. Too many pitches from little league through college.
This post was edited on 6/2/09 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 6/2/09 at 11:58 pm to bayourant
Bertman called out for ruining his arm then defending it by saying "hundreds of kids did it." STAN THE MAN
STAN THE MANPosted on 6/3/09 at 12:26 am to Maximus
Nolan Ryan was quoted in the Houston Chronicle as saying (paraphrased) that this idea of pitch counts was overblown and that it caused pitchers to NOT fully develop the arm strength needed for a major league season.
Posted on 6/3/09 at 12:35 am to Purplehaze
Ben had a good article metioning that college pitchers had a few picthes wtih them. He felt Skip used him a bit too much. However, its college baseball and he knew that he would get thrown out. I think its the biggest negative to college baseball these days vs. going in from HS.
Posted on 6/3/09 at 7:58 am to ehidal1
this was a good read
Posted on 6/3/09 at 8:11 am to Maximus
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Bertman called out for ruining his arm then defending it by saying "hundreds of kids did it." STAN THE MAN
First time I've seen you insult Skip without calling him a money-grubbing Jew.
Posted on 6/3/09 at 8:38 am to bayourant
If I my memory is correct, the Baltimore pitching coach would only let McDonald throw three pitches - fast ball, curve and a change up.
A major league pitcher without a slider is a disaster waiting to happen. Most major league hitters can hit a good fast ball. By not letting him add to his repetoire of pitches had a lot to do with his bad stats.
A major league pitcher without a slider is a disaster waiting to happen. Most major league hitters can hit a good fast ball. By not letting him add to his repetoire of pitches had a lot to do with his bad stats.
Posted on 6/3/09 at 8:56 am to Purplehaze
Well, Dr. James Andrews disagrees with Nolan Ryan. The number of arm surgeries in kids these days is WAY up due to overuse per him.
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Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:10 am to Choupique19
I wouldn't call anyone that won 78 games in the Major Leagues a bust. There have been too many guys that didn't even make it to the bigs.
Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:11 am to bayourant
Ben was great but I'll never forget that grand slam that he surrendered to Stanford in the CWS. 
Posted on 6/3/09 at 10:34 am to Maximus
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This post was edited on 6/3/09 at 10:41 am
Posted on 6/3/09 at 11:17 am to bayourant
Good article, except that it says Denham is now 12 miles west of BR. When I left ten years ago I didn't have to cross the river to get to Denham.
Posted on 6/3/09 at 11:30 am to foshizzle
Bens daughter looks just like his wife.
i know ben and his wife so i should know.
the interstate mile marker says baton rouge 12 miles when you get to dehham springs
i know ben and his wife so i should know.
the interstate mile marker says baton rouge 12 miles when you get to dehham springs
Posted on 6/3/09 at 11:55 am to calitiger
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Ben was great and I'll never forget that time in the regionals at Texas A&M when he won the first game of the regional, then pitched 7 innings to win against A&M in the championship round with LSU coming out of the losers bracket, then came in relief to win game 2 and send the Tigers to Omaha. Texas A&M was 55-3 before that day and had only one loss at home all year.
Posted on 6/3/09 at 12:00 pm to bayourant
i know ben. his wife is HAWWWWT
Posted on 6/3/09 at 12:21 pm to Wolf Shirt
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i know ben. his wife is HAWWWWT
Please...you'd be lucky if you knew Ronald McDonald.
Posted on 6/3/09 at 1:27 pm to lsu7171
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the interstate mile marker says baton rouge 12 miles when you get to dehham springs
Denham is not 12 miles west of BR like the article says. It is 12 miles east of BR. That's why I didn't have to cross the Mississippi to go between the two.
Posted on 6/3/09 at 3:49 pm to chity
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If I my memory is correct, the Baltimore pitching coach would only let McDonald throw three pitches - fast ball, curve and a change up.
A major league pitcher without a slider is a disaster waiting to happen. Most major league hitters can hit a good fast ball. By not letting him add to his repetoire of pitches had a lot to do with his bad stats.
You are partially correct. The Baltimore pitching coach, Dick Bosman, would only allow the three pitches you named. Ben had a cut fastball that he used, but NEVER threw a slider. Not all MLB pitchers throw a slider, some just can't throw it well enough. He had an unbelievable split finger that the O's thought was hard on his elbow.
And I would not say that his stats were bad at all.
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