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re: Why not in favor of playoff.
Posted on 5/7/09 at 2:57 pm to joec5522
Posted on 5/7/09 at 2:57 pm to joec5522
I posted this in the thread at SEC Rant...
College Football Playoff would be bad thing.
First of all, how do you decide which teams get in? Are we talking about the top 4 teams or the top 8 teams? What about the 5th and the 9th who might be .0001 points behind the 4th or 8th place teams? Computer formulas will still be used to calculate which teams get in; they have to be. Coaches poll is so damn stupid: coaches don't watch every damn game to determine who's the better teams. Sportswriters are biased. West Coast Press sucks West Coast Team Dicks. ESPN sucks USC dick.
Strength of schedule MUST be used as one of the parameters. If it's not, conferences would suffer. What would keep a strong team from leaving a conference and playing nothing but patsies? Just schedule North Texas, Tulane, Rice, UAB, etc. and go undefeated. Could a team with the weakest schedule of all go undefeated then claim they're the best?
Secondly, how much money do the fans have? Can you afford to take off of work and travel to see your team play in the playoffs for 3 games? If not, do you go to the first game only and not the others? Do you wait to see if your team wins the first round before traveling? What if they lose? How many people would make that decision? This does not bode well for teams with strong fan bases that follow the team, i.e. the SEC.
I MIGHT be in favor of a +1 format but that's about it.
No matter what, there will ALWAYS be controversy. Most of it contrived, but controversy nonetheless.
College Football Playoff would be bad thing.
First of all, how do you decide which teams get in? Are we talking about the top 4 teams or the top 8 teams? What about the 5th and the 9th who might be .0001 points behind the 4th or 8th place teams? Computer formulas will still be used to calculate which teams get in; they have to be. Coaches poll is so damn stupid: coaches don't watch every damn game to determine who's the better teams. Sportswriters are biased. West Coast Press sucks West Coast Team Dicks. ESPN sucks USC dick.
Strength of schedule MUST be used as one of the parameters. If it's not, conferences would suffer. What would keep a strong team from leaving a conference and playing nothing but patsies? Just schedule North Texas, Tulane, Rice, UAB, etc. and go undefeated. Could a team with the weakest schedule of all go undefeated then claim they're the best?
Secondly, how much money do the fans have? Can you afford to take off of work and travel to see your team play in the playoffs for 3 games? If not, do you go to the first game only and not the others? Do you wait to see if your team wins the first round before traveling? What if they lose? How many people would make that decision? This does not bode well for teams with strong fan bases that follow the team, i.e. the SEC.
I MIGHT be in favor of a +1 format but that's about it.
No matter what, there will ALWAYS be controversy. Most of it contrived, but controversy nonetheless.
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Posted on 5/7/09 at 3:07 pm to LSU Tigerhead
So why should this be the only level of college football without a playoff?
Are you telling me FCS and lower division schools are smarter, more organized, and have better staff and leadership than the BCS schools do?
Are you telling me FCS and lower division schools are smarter, more organized, and have better staff and leadership than the BCS schools do?
Posted on 5/7/09 at 5:02 pm to LSU Tigerhead
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First of all, how do you decide which teams get in? Are we talking about the top 4 teams or the top 8 teams? What about the 5th and the 9th who might be .0001 points behind the 4th or 8th place teams?
Who cares about the 5th or the 9th team? Unless there are 5 or 9 undefeated teams, the team getting left out could've made the playoff with better play.
As for the argument that you wouldn't need to win every game, are you telling me that having to be in the top 4 (or maybe 8) spots in the rankings won't force all but a few teams to win every game? Most years the NC has a loss. So right now you don't have to win every game to be the NC. You can even lose 2 as LSU showed in '07. Was that year any less exciting because LSU didn't HAVE to win every game?
Posted on 5/7/09 at 8:11 pm to LSU Tigerhead
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I posted this in the thread at SEC Rant...
College Football Playoff would be bad thing.
First of all, how do you decide which teams get in? Are we talking about the top 4 teams or the top 8 teams? What about the 5th and the 9th who might be .0001 points behind the 4th or 8th place teams? Computer formulas will still be used to calculate which teams get in; they have to be. Coaches poll is so damn stupid: coaches don't watch every damn game to determine who's the better teams. Sportswriters are biased. West Coast Press sucks West Coast Team Dicks. ESPN sucks USC dick.
Strength of schedule MUST be used as one of the parameters. If it's not, conferences would suffer. What would keep a strong team from leaving a conference and playing nothing but patsies? Just schedule North Texas, Tulane, Rice, UAB, etc. and go undefeated. Could a team with the weakest schedule of all go undefeated then claim they're the best?
Secondly, how much money do the fans have? Can you afford to take off of work and travel to see your team play in the playoffs for 3 games? If not, do you go to the first game only and not the others? Do you wait to see if your team wins the first round before traveling? What if they lose? How many people would make that decision? This does not bode well for teams with strong fan bases that follow the team, i.e. the SEC.
I MIGHT be in favor of a +1 format but that's about it.
No matter what, there will ALWAYS be controversy. Most of it contrived, but controversy nonetheless.
Pretty much none of what you said makes any sense. You're concerned about the 5th or 9th team in a playoff - how about the 3rd team in the current system? Your arguments against the playoff are the same ones that exist under the current system but are magnified as only two teams get in.
If USC has such a media advantage, please explain why they have not been in the championship game in spite of having the same number of losses as the eventual champion (two in 2007 and one last year)?
Lastly, how has the traveling issue worked out for the NCAA basketball tournament?
Posted on 5/7/09 at 10:19 pm to LSU Tigerhead
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Can you afford to take off of work and travel to see your team play in the playoffs for 3 games? If not, do you go to the first game only and not the others? Do you wait to see if your team wins the first round before traveling?
Biggest issue surrounding a playoff, IMO. Imagine if LSU had a 1st round playoff game in Phoenix, then a semi-final in Miami the next week, followed by a Championship Game in Pasadena the week after that. How many people could make it to more than one of those games? I'm in favor of a playoff, and seeing the CFB playoffs become even more of a corporate event than the BCS is now (which is definitely what would happen) would be worthwhile to me, but it's definitely a major concern.
Also, the NCAA Basketball tournament argument is so weak, it doesn't deserve a response.
This post was edited on 5/7/09 at 10:23 pm
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