A better top-10 coaching list

That's a great list. The only thing i think i would change is i would switch bob stoops with Mack Brown. My reason is that brown actually won the only game he was in against a really REALLY good usc team. Also another reason is stoops losing record in bowl games and the fact that his record is a little misgiving, oklahoma doesn't play good teams and they don't play them away. Texas has played ohio state both at home and away and i just think brown is a better coach. But once again, that is my opinion, but other than that i really thuoght this was a great list, i also really liked that you put boise state's coach in there. He is really underrated

A huge part of coaching is recruiting. I wasn't just rating their game-day decision-making. But in fairness to Carroll, look at him compared to John Cooper. Cooper was an incredible recruiter at Ohio State, but he never won anything of significance and couldn't beat Michigan. Carroll's teams have excelled in big games against teams close to USC in talent.

Stoops' teams have won a ton of big games in the Big 12, including a long run of dominance over Texas that Brown only recently has reversed. But I understand your point.

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What about Mack Browns 1 Big12 title to Stoops' 6, while both play in the Big12 South....And Mack Brown has the state of Texas to recruit out of, where UT is the king.

That's a good point. I hadn't thought of that. I guess i am biased against stoops because i lived in oklahoma for a year, thankfully the year we beat them in the BCS CG!!! But everyone there thought 1) Oklahoma would kill LSU. 2) Stoops was 2nd only to god in importance. So i am always willing to go for anyone that is playing against Oklahoma or is picked higher than oklahoma so my point is a little bit skewed. but that said he is a good coach. I also don't like the fact that they don't really play anyone good out of conference

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No. 19 Mark Mangino, Kansas

What, did he eat his way on to this list?

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Exactly what I was thinking!

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Rivals.com rated Les Miles the 28th-best college football coach behind guys like Iowa's Kirk Ferentz (No. 5), North Carolina State's Tom O'Brien (No. 14), Kansas' Mark Mangino (No. 19) and South Florida's Jim Leavitt (No. 27).

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That is a pitiful list by Rivals.com. Take away Miles' NC and he still should be 10 spots higher. What was this guy thinking?

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Rivals.com rated

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Stop right there. Rivals obviously does not consider wins in big games and BCS bowls in their rankings. I could not make it through 15, it was so ridiculous, a total joke devoid of any connection to reality.

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I understand if you were talking about trophy case.

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He could have in 07' had GA not been beaten by Tenn. Sounds like Richt needs to take care of business to get a shot at LSU. Richt is the most overrated coach in the SEC and one of the most overrated in the country.

Now, I was critical of Miles for a long time. But, isn't it the trophy case that matters.

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It is. I'm not necessarily stating Richt is that better than Miles, but they have played twice, and Miles has failed to beat him head-to-head. Hopefully, he gets over the hump this year.

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To be fair, UGA's games vs LSU came at times where LSU were at huge disadvantages. Miles 1st meeting vs UGA came at a time where the LSU team just ran out of gas after playing 10 or 11 straight weekends. The heavily favorite LSU team (vs Ark) just barely beat Arkansas the week before and the players were admitting they were tired. The 2nd meeting came at a time LSU was starting what would have been a 3rd string QB and a trial and error co-defensive co-ord vs UGA's preseaon ranked #1 team. Come to think of it, not counting 2003, UGA usually catches LSU in down cycles or years when they are experimenting with new defensive schemes such as last year or when Quincy Carter completed every thing he threw vs Tepper's soft zones or Hurricane disrupted season's or the year our HC is entertaning thoughts of coaching in the NFL. Those were LSU teams that never played up to their talent because of a selective few or natural disasters.