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Archie Manning
Posted on 4/6/09 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 4/6/09 at 6:23 pm
Was Archie Manning a bust? My uncle told me he was. He was before my time so I don't know but I had always thought he was a good NFL qb. I was shocked when he said Archie was a bust, he is a big Miss. State fan so...any truth to it?
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Posted on 4/6/09 at 6:24 pm to RGCjr01
bust
Posted on 4/6/09 at 6:24 pm to RGCjr01
Archie got a raw deal. I don't think anybody could have been good for some of those teams he was on.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 6:48 pm to RGCjr01
Uncle should have told you about the busts of teams he played for.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 6:50 pm to tubucoco
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Uncle should have told you about the busts of teams he played for.
LOL!!!!
your uncle probably wasnt alive then either if he told you that
Posted on 4/6/09 at 6:54 pm to RGCjr01
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My uncle told me he was
No offense but your uncle must be a idiot.
Archie was the one and only bright spot on many Saints teams. I shudder just to think how bad some of them teams could have been without him.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 6:59 pm to RGCjr01
Your uncle is a bust. Archie played on horrible teams almost his entire career. The best Saints team he played on was just average. Still, Manning managed to be named the MVP of the league. He was no bust.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 8:00 pm to GeauxBayouBengals
Well I didn't think he was. That's why I checked. I think he said that because he hates Ole Miss.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:01 pm to RGCjr01
whats crazy is that even with the hatred between LSU and Ole Miss. LSU fans will tell how great Archie was. Bear Bryant himself said Archie was the best player he had ever seen.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:18 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Bear Bryant himself said Archie was the best player he had ever seen.
Really? That's one of the best compliments a football player could have ever gotten.
You don't happen to have a LINK on him making that comment do ya? I would like to email it to someone.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:20 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Archie Manning was not a bust. He was a RARE decent draft choice in the Saints' early years. Believe me... a DECENT player is like a miracle compared to some of the winners the Saints drafted over the years.
And it's not like the Saints didn't have good picks to work with either, some of these were real no-brainers, and the Saints STILL bungled them.
No.. Archie was no bust. He was one of the few investments the team made that actually worked.
And it's not like the Saints didn't have good picks to work with either, some of these were real no-brainers, and the Saints STILL bungled them.
No.. Archie was no bust. He was one of the few investments the team made that actually worked.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:28 pm to Ponchy Tiger
The one year that archie had some help (wes chandler, henry childs tony galbreath and chuck muncie) the saints had the number one offense in the league and stil finnished with an 8-8 record. NO DEFENSE (sound familiar?)
Roger staubach has been quoted as saying that the cowbiys would have won many more championships had archie been there qb.
When bum came to town he dumped archie for an aging ken stabler (first archie went to the oilers and then the vikings)
Great qb who got a bum deal in the pro game.
I also recal they were 4 top qb's in the 1970 draft. Archie, Jim Plunkett out of Stanford, Rex Kern out of Ohio state and I cant remember the fourth name.
Roger staubach has been quoted as saying that the cowbiys would have won many more championships had archie been there qb.
When bum came to town he dumped archie for an aging ken stabler (first archie went to the oilers and then the vikings)
Great qb who got a bum deal in the pro game.
I also recal they were 4 top qb's in the 1970 draft. Archie, Jim Plunkett out of Stanford, Rex Kern out of Ohio state and I cant remember the fourth name.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:31 pm to fjhjr08
didn't Joe Ferguson come out that year?
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:34 pm to Ponchy Tiger
I think if there is one knock on Archie, he wasn't the driven, type-A leader like his son Peyton. Archie played a while for Bum before Bum went to Stabler, who actually got the O playing better than it had been under Archie. Still, Archie was an elite player and was and is a class act.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 9:40 pm to RGCjr01
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Was Archie Manning a bust?
No.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 10:56 pm to eddieray
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You don't happen to have a LINK on him making that comment do ya? I would like to email it to someone.
Posted on 4/6/09 at 11:42 pm to RGCjr01
no bust, face of the franchise when it was worse than the Lions or Raiders now.
The teams were so terrible except his last few years it is hard to guage how good he was. I had to look it up, he was more mobile than a young McNabb. He averaged over 5ypc for his career. Six seasons he ran for over 288yds- usually for his life. This was back in the day when QBs got pounded whether sacked or not. So a mobile guy like that...
look at the totals for team wins, games started, and sacks-
4 10 40
2 14 43
5 13 28
5 11 26
2 13 49
4 09 36
3 16 37
7 16 17 Pro Bowl NFC Player of the Year
8 16 41 Pro Bowl
1 11 21
4 05 29
one more...
a favorite Saints story: playing Buffalo when John North was coach, he told Manning "Man, that 32 sure can run." Manning asked him and realized the head coach did not know who O.J. Simpson was.
ON THE RUN
The teams were so terrible except his last few years it is hard to guage how good he was. I had to look it up, he was more mobile than a young McNabb. He averaged over 5ypc for his career. Six seasons he ran for over 288yds- usually for his life. This was back in the day when QBs got pounded whether sacked or not. So a mobile guy like that...
look at the totals for team wins, games started, and sacks-
4 10 40
2 14 43
5 13 28
5 11 26
2 13 49
4 09 36
3 16 37
7 16 17 Pro Bowl NFC Player of the Year
8 16 41 Pro Bowl
1 11 21
4 05 29
one more...
a favorite Saints story: playing Buffalo when John North was coach, he told Manning "Man, that 32 sure can run." Manning asked him and realized the head coach did not know who O.J. Simpson was.
ON THE RUN
This post was edited on 4/6/09 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 4/7/09 at 7:03 am to RGCjr01
your uncle doesn't know dick about football. Archie played on some incredibly crappy Saints' teams. When he had a decent surrounding cast (late 70s) he put up Pro Bowl numbers. He was never a classic pocket passer and suffered from efforts to make him one. Tended to throw sidearm, but was accurate. Obviously, a great scrambler and runner.
Posted on 4/7/09 at 7:27 am to TigerJeff
The facts are these: Archie was well on his way to being a bust until Dick Nolan saved his career. During the John North/Hank Stram years, there were major doubts about his abilities, and they brought in other quarterbacks (like Joe Gilliam and Bobby Douglass) to challenge him. Fortunately for Archie, Gilliam had his own personal demons, and Douglass was terrible
Posted on 4/7/09 at 7:48 am to RGCjr01
Archies favorite play, the two yards pass.
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