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Reason Coleman Pitched
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:42 am
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:42 am
I have racked my brain... This is the only thing I can come up with. It had already been decided Coleman would be used out of the bullpen this weekend. Coach wanted to give him a little work in a relief situation. I know that is a strech, but it is the best I can come up with.
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Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:50 am to DEE
I know the reason why. The Coach we pay alot of money to coach told him to pitch.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:52 am to Chinese Bandit7
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I know the reason why. The Coach we pay alot of money to coach told him to pitch.
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Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:52 am to Chinese Bandit7
Word is the coaches didn't even know he was going in. He snuck in the game.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:53 am to SmackDaniels
He only pitched 2 innings or so. Whay can't he be the starter on Sun.?
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:56 am to guttata
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He only pitched 2 innings or so. Whay can't he be the starter on Sun.?
That may be the plan. Depending on how today's game goes, we may not need him. If we are going for the sweep on Sunday, I'd expect him to start and give us 5-6 innings.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 7:59 am to guttata
I overheard Coleman talking after the game outside of the stadium about why he pitched. The team bus picked up the players right by where I parked for the game. Coleman was standing by my car talking to an old guy who seemed to know a bunch of the players. I heard Coleman tell him that PM brought him in because he was afraid UGA would bust out late in the game and come back on us. He then said he though PM would bring him in for relief in game 2 if we had a lead and go Sunday by committee. He wasn't sure, but that's what he thought.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:04 am to EmoryTiger
That tells me that PM doesn't have much faith in his team. Up by 7 runs w/ 3 innings to go and he uses his best pitcher cause he's afraid UGA will score 6 runs? Addidtionally, if that were the case, why would he have not kept him in to finish the game.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:07 am to guttata
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an old guy who seemed to know a bunch of the players
You had a close encounter with the Dandy One!
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:23 am to guttata
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That tells me that PM doesn't have much faith in his team. Up by 7 runs w/ 3 innings to go and he uses his best pitcher cause he's afraid UGA will score 6 runs? Addidtionally, if that were the case, why would he have not kept him in to finish the game.
exactly
and we arent making it to omaha if coach doesnt trust anyone else in the bullpen but louis, bc we desperately need him as a starter
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:33 am to Ron Mexico
Maybe not a bad move. You're trying to win the series - chances of a sweep vs. UGA are very slim.
So you bring in Coleman to secure the win in Game One. Then you have him on the shelf for more relief today if LSU has a lead late in Game Two - which secures the series win for LSU. If LSU loses today, then you start Coleman on Sunday.
So you bring in Coleman to secure the win in Game One. Then you have him on the shelf for more relief today if LSU has a lead late in Game Two - which secures the series win for LSU. If LSU loses today, then you start Coleman on Sunday.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:42 am to DEE
The reason is LSU only has one mid-week game next week against a very weak Grambling - only 4 wins on the season. Coach can use Matulis and/or Byrd on Sunday. Trust Coach M - he knows what he's doing!
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:45 am to jtt
This, of course, is assuming they win the series. If LSU loses today and Sun., many of the tards will be second guessing PM's decision to use Coleman of Fri. with the game well in hand.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:48 am to guttata
It was a bonehead decision no matter the outcome this weekend. All coaches have these brainfarts. Hope it doesn't bite us today or tomorrow.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:49 am to LSUGoose
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Maybe not a bad move. You're trying to win the series - chances of a sweep vs. UGA are very slim.
So you bring in Coleman to secure the win in Game One. Then you have him on the shelf for more relief today if LSU has a lead late in Game Two - which secures the series win for LSU. If LSU loses today, then you start Coleman on Sunday.
Yeah, but we were up by 8 runs.
I have no problem with Coleman being available for relief last night. If he turned it over to the bullpen and the bullpen gave up 4 or 5 runs, and he had to go to Coleman to shut the door, nobody would be complaining.
I just don't understand it. It seems like it was predetermined. My guess is PM planned on doing exactly what he did ahead of time...which mad a lot of sense under the assumption that we were in a close game on Friday...and makes very little sense when you are up 8 runs.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:52 am to moneyg
quote:Unless he had turned it over to the bullpen, they gave up 5 runs in 2 outs, and then Coleman has to go the last 2 1/3 innings and gives up another 3 runs and we lose the game in extra innings. Then people would be saying, "why didn't we go to Coleman to secure the win? No way Coleman would have given up EIGHT runs!"
If he turned it over to the bullpen and the bullpen gave up 4 or 5 runs, and he had to go to Coleman to shut the door, nobody would be complaining.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:52 am to guttata
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That tells me that PM doesn't have much faith in his team.
Or that he has great respect for the opposing team. Georgia is one of the best hitting teams in the nation. I mean, how many times has LSU come back late in a game from such a deficit and win?
Posted on 4/4/09 at 8:59 am to IM4LSU2
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I mean, how many times has LSU come back late in a game from such a deficit and win?
If UGA gets some runs, then bring him in. I mean, if we're so worried about UGA coming from behind, what in the hell are we doing pulling Coleman for Nicholson in the 9th?
How many times have you seen a closer used in that situation?
It's ok to disagree with the coach and still like him and think he's a good coach. They all make mistakes.
This post was edited on 4/4/09 at 9:00 am
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:12 am to JustSmokin
maybe he's showing a lot of confidence in Austin Ross to be moving him up to Saturday...i think he will give us a huge performance today and Coleman will shut'em down tomorrow.
Posted on 4/4/09 at 9:13 am to JustSmokin
quote:But it's not just saying that he made a mistake. It's saying that he made a mistake that is an obvious blunder to even casual observers. That's like saying Tom Brady thinks there are 6 downs in a series instead of 4. If the decision were so easy and obvious, and without any viable pros and cons, how would such a successful and experienced coach not get it right? What would he have missed? Do you think he was not aware that he had an 8 run lead? Do you think he was not aware that there were two more games on Saturday and Sunday? Do you think he was not aware that there were only 3 innings left in the game? Do you think he was not aware that he could have waited and put Coleman in later if Georgia started to come back?
It's ok to disagree with the coach and still like him and think he's a good coach. They all make mistakes.
I ask all those questions because the claim here is that those were the only factors that could possibly dictate the correct decision, and that they all dictate the same decision; the one Mainieri did not make. So when suggesting that he made this mistake, how exactly do you think he made it? What do you think he didn't know that y'all knew?
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