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LSU Pitching

Posted on 3/12/09 at 10:21 am
Posted by Tigerfan613
Pineville
Member since Feb 2008
601 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 10:21 am
Will everybody relax about the pitching of LSU. PM said last night on the post game show they were going to be strapped for pitching last night to begin with. They had the worst possible scenario last night. Cain went only an inning and least everybody forget Nicholson only went one inning and then the rain came. I promise you he would have not went with Spencer Matthews but who else was he going to use. He used four guys the night before. We have to win the weekend a whole lot more than the weekdays.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 10:26 am to
Pitching depth is a concern, though I do think you're right in that this was sort of a perfect strom. Eventually, these weeks with two midweek games are going to go away and the rotation will be able to settle down. Mainieri really has to scrounge the pen to find a fifth starter.

Hell, I think people are panicking over Bradshaw, who had one bad outing. Then again, I don't think it matters which one of Bradshaw and Coleman starts and which one acts as a swing reliever.
Posted by Roach
River Ridge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
4258 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 10:41 am to
Pitching is certainly a concern but it is early in the season still. We just need to win the SEC weekends and everything will fall into place.
Posted by Tigrus Maximus
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2007
623 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 11:34 am to
FWIW, PM said before the game that Cain would only throw 1 inning, regardless of the outcome or how good he felt after it. Fans need to realize that these midweek games are being used by PM to see different people in different situations. He's not necessarily putting the best people out there in the best situations, but rather seeing if certain people will rise to certain situations. I mean, PM would have never pulled Coleman after one inning in which he walked the first batter, then struck out the side. He was trying to save Coleman's arm for the weekend, and wanted to see if Ott could pull it out.
Posted by rocknfire
Member since Oct 2008
66 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 11:48 am to
I watched the geaux zone and the umpire was very inconsistant just like illinois. The strike zone varied all night. This affects the outcome of the game. The game is simple if any part of the ball touches the plate from the belt to the knees it should be a strike. If it does not it is not a Strike!!! This guy had everyone guessing what was a strike on every pitch.
Posted by Tigerfan613
Pineville
Member since Feb 2008
601 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 11:51 am to
Don't complain about the umpires. That was not the difference in the game. Two three run bombs was the difference not the umpire's zone.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82205 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 11:56 am to
I know it didn't effect the outcome, but for those who were there, how bad of a "safe" call on the ULL runner in the 8th was that? frickin horrible.
Posted by Tigerfan613
Pineville
Member since Feb 2008
601 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 12:01 pm to
I will agree with that call. The reason it was bad is because in the time DJ has been at LSU I have never seen him react that way to a call. He was pissed.
Posted by tigator
St. Amant, La.
Member since Nov 2007
84 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 12:17 pm to
as an umpire, it's always easier to umpire from the STANDS or your LAZY BOY !!!!
Posted by IM4LSU2
Ascension Parish
Member since Sep 2005
1855 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

as an umpire, it's always easier to umpire from the STANDS or your LAZY BOY !!!!


In this particular instance, it was a blatant "get your head out of your a$$" call.
Posted by Summer Grove Tiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2008
1381 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 12:29 pm to
We don't have enough pitching right now for 5 games in a week, especially when the top 3-4 guys have to be saved for the weekend.

The worst part is that the USL dudes get to bark about beating LSU. deep down, they know they wouldn't stand a chance if LSU had been able to pitch Ranaudo, Coleman, Ross or Matulis.

LSU will be there at the end. Where will USL be?
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19304 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 1:03 pm to
Quit all the crying and excuses. They pitched a freshman and the Tigers couldn't get it done. Bottom line. It wasn't like LSU had a bunch of preseason tryouts playing. They had their chance and they lost. Move on, live and learn. The Cajuns will always come in to this game focused and swinging the bats to beat the Tigers. They knew they would be hitting off a couple of pitchers that couldn't pitch for their team.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82205 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

It wasn't like LSU had a bunch of preseason tryouts playing

I could argue Matthews is this
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
14561 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 1:08 pm to
quote:


Hell, I think people are panicking over Bradshaw, who had one bad outing. Then again, I don't think it matters which one of Bradshaw and Coleman starts and which one acts as a swing reliever.



I don't understand this either.

Have people forgotten he pitched the most innings during our streak last year?
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19304 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

I could argue Matthews is this


I was referring to the field position players, but yes he wasn't too good, if you would call it good at all.
Posted by The Big Bro
Somewhere between NOLA and Texas
Member since Nov 2008
79 posts
Posted on 3/12/09 at 3:10 pm to
With this much inconsistency from this many pitchers, does anyone think to question Coach Grewe. It's not normal for, what seems to be, about half of the pitching staff being very inconsistent. And it's not just new people like mathews, alsup, riedie, or ziegler. Even bertucinni and nicholson and bradshaw have been inconsistent. I just don't think you can put blame on a few pitchers when most, this past week especially, have not played near their ability.

It just makes me wonder what Grewe is doing to help these guys out, if anything at all.

Besides pitching though, you can't compete at this level and expect to win if you commit errors and can't run the bases. We've had way too many mistakes as of late that should be fundamentals of the game. I believe that all our losses occured when we had 2 errors at least. This hurts us, lowers batters motivation, and keeps pitchers out longer than they should be.

LSU's problem isn't just a few guys. There's basic problems that need to be fixed throughout each facet of the game. They also need to realize (and i hope they finally do) that they don't win because they're LSU. I think they've been really easy-going about this season so far and they need to realize that to be #1, they need to work hard and play with heart.

sorry for the rambling
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