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The “blame anyone else” trend continues + a history lesson for goldfish.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:50 pm
Yes this is a response thread. Apparently now it’s Joe Biden’s fault this war hasn’t ended in one week.
Because he is the reason we don’t have a permanent base at Bagram in Afghanistan. So let’s review reality and examine the merit of that claim.
Yes the Biden admin absolutely deserves criticism for its execution at the end.
But the 2020 Doha agreement committed the U.S. to a full withdrawal. That means no presence & no bases. We had already drawn down from 13000 to 2500 troops by the time Biden took office.
At that point, keeping Bagram would’ve required reversing the withdrawal agreement, sending thousands of troops back in, and re-engaging in open conflict with the Taliban.
So sure criticize Biden for the messy finish. He deserves it. But the idea that we would still have Bagram today without reigniting the war is dumb revisionist history.
I look forward to hearing all the neocon arguments why we should’ve never left Afghanistan.
Because he is the reason we don’t have a permanent base at Bagram in Afghanistan. So let’s review reality and examine the merit of that claim.
Yes the Biden admin absolutely deserves criticism for its execution at the end.
But the 2020 Doha agreement committed the U.S. to a full withdrawal. That means no presence & no bases. We had already drawn down from 13000 to 2500 troops by the time Biden took office.
At that point, keeping Bagram would’ve required reversing the withdrawal agreement, sending thousands of troops back in, and re-engaging in open conflict with the Taliban.
So sure criticize Biden for the messy finish. He deserves it. But the idea that we would still have Bagram today without reigniting the war is dumb revisionist history.
I look forward to hearing all the neocon arguments why we should’ve never left Afghanistan.
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:51 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Solid post as usual 
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:51 pm to DeathByTossDive225
You needed another thread? 
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:54 pm to Jbird
You could just quit giving me material by refusing to hold Trump accountable for anything ever.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:56 pm to DeathByTossDive225
quote:
You could just quit giving me material
Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:59 pm to SirWinston
I love Toss Dive, he has made a lot of good points lately. But, he could use a break.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:00 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Tossing aside the logic of any withdrawal agreement, if we had kept Bagram, does anybody believe we’d have lost less servicemen at this point?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:08 pm to DeathByTossDive225
You said Kamala would be better than Trump. Everyone knows you’re against this administration.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:11 pm to Jbird
It takes a lot of effort and a lot of threads to try to distract attention from what disasters to this country the Obama and Biden administrations were
Deathdrivel is a true believer in Obama the messiah. He doesn’t really care about Biden but he has to cover them both in order to try to pin their disasterous decisions on Trump
unfortunately for him the more threads he starts the more desperate he seems and the more obvious it becomes how hard he needs to try to cover for these disasters.
But such is the burden an anti US follower of the messiah must bear. Once you throw in with the destruction of the country you’re in for good whether your messiah runs the place anymore or not.
Deathdrivel is a true believer in Obama the messiah. He doesn’t really care about Biden but he has to cover them both in order to try to pin their disasterous decisions on Trump
unfortunately for him the more threads he starts the more desperate he seems and the more obvious it becomes how hard he needs to try to cover for these disasters.
But such is the burden an anti US follower of the messiah must bear. Once you throw in with the destruction of the country you’re in for good whether your messiah runs the place anymore or not.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:40 pm to DeathByTossDive225
STFU and stop doing the same thread.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 1:41 pm
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