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For Those That Think Trump is Doing Israel's Bidding

Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:09 am
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:09 am
Here is another clip of him from 1987 talking about Iran. He has been consistent on this for 40+ years now. How can anyone square this with the idea that he is doing Israel's bidding here? He isn't. He's doing exactly what he always said he would do. And furthermore, he is pointing out that Iran has a history of attacking our country.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:10 am to
Israel has some influence and interest for obvious reasons (Iranian proxies attacking Israel)

The Saudis also have some influence

We aren't doing this to the sole benefit of the United States and to think otherwise is just silly
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:12 am to
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We aren't doing this to the sole benefit of the United States and to think otherwise is just silly


Again, you cannot square this idea with the reality that Trump is doing exactly what he has said he would do for 40+ years. Yeah, other nations will be affected positively by this, but that doesn't mean he is doing it for them. He is telling you exactly why he is doing it. And it isn't because Israel.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:14 am to
I think it's very absurd to say that it's ONLY because of Israel but they have influence and that can't be just dismissed because of something Trump said 40 years ago
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:15 am to
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but they have influence and that can't be just dismissed because of something Trump said 40 years ago


Again, this thread is for those who think Trump is some sort of secret Israeli agent and that he is doing this because Israel wants him to. That simply is not true. To suggest it is is "very absurd."
Posted by aubie101
Russia
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:16 am to
This utter-refusal to see how much authority and power Israel has in government is outstanding. The fact is you willingly have to ignore evidence to arrive to any other conclusion.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:17 am to
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This utter-refusal to see how much authority and power Israel has in government is outstanding. The fact is you willingly have to ignore evidence to arrive to any other conclusion.


I didn't say this. What I said is that he is doing exactly what he has said he would do for 40+ years. He has been consistent on this issue. He is not doing it for Israel.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:17 am to
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I think it's very absurd to say that it's ONLY because of Israel


You say that but there have been a TON of people that are claiming Netanyahu made the call to Trump and he came running like a lap dog.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:18 am to
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You say that but there have been a TON of people that are claiming Netanyahu made the call to Trump and he came running like a lap dog.


Yep. And they cannot back that up with anything but feels. Feels that are obviously wrong.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 9:50 am to
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Yep. And they cannot back that up with anything but feels. Feels that are obviously wrong.

Rubio did allude to the idea that they were going to attack Iran with or without us and we joined in because our bases would be targets

They might have had more influence in our decision making than you want to believe

But it's not as simple as the silly notion that Netanyahu is telling Trump what to do. That's a cartoonish fiction at best.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:17 am to
Israel has had tremendous power over the US government for 70 years. So… Trump discussing something Israel desired back in 1987, and trying to proclaim he isn’t doing Israel’s bidding now, because he said it in 1987 is disingenuous.

If you want to see how much power, and influence Israel had on this nation for the last 75 years, watch this documentary about JFK and his desire to force AIPAC to register as a foreign agent back in 1962.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
64881 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:25 am to
Um, yeah. He's been heavily influenced by Israel and jewish organized crime his whole life.

Even before he was born, when his dad was building synagogues in NYC and promoting Israel Bonds in the 30's and 40's.

What is him saying 'Iran bad" 40 years ago supposed to prove?
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9777 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:28 am to
Have you considered that he was asking American taxpayers to put Israel's interest over their own interests then, and he's also doing that now?

I will concede that he's consistent, but this - asking American taxpayers to put Israel's interest over their own interests - wasn't MAGA then, and isn't now.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8313 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:44 am to
I didnt hear anything about nukes op. Isnt that what this current war is about according to both trump and israel?
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5033 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:50 am to
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Israel has some influence


I'll concede that point. But so do many other Nations.

But to conclude that BiBi is calling all the shots and we act that behest of whatever Israel says is just Looney Toon land.

And the majority of those folks that think that way are Pro-Palestinian people as well.
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 10:50 am to
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He is not doing it for Israel


Bull frickin shite

Bibi is making Trump do whatever he tells him

American troops will on the ground in Iran in less than a month because that’s what Israel wants.

American blood and American money will be wasted because Trump has been cucked by Bibi
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/30/26 at 11:04 am to
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But to conclude that BiBi is calling all the shots and we act that behest of whatever Israel says is just Looney Toon land.


No, it’s not looney toon. Do some research!!

Watch the documentary I posted just above. JFK was essentially assassinated, because he wouldn’t do want Israel wanted.

Read about how Eisenhower warned JFK if he didn’t do the bidding of Israel and the military industrial complex that there would be dire consequences.

Some of you put your head in the sand and refuse to see how much Israel controls every aspect of our government.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9777 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:29 pm to
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Watch the documentary I posted just above. JFK was essentially assassinated, because he wouldn’t do want Israel wanted.

Read about how Eisenhower warned JFK if he didn’t do the bidding of Israel and the military industrial complex that there would be dire consequences.

Some of you put your head in the sand and refuse to see how much Israel controls every aspect of our government.


Amazing considering that there are only about 15 million Jewish people on the planet in 1940, and only 16 million now.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
9405 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:35 pm to
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Um, yeah. He's been heavily influenced by Israel and jewish organized crime his whole life.


Oh, ok. So now you guys are arguing he is an Israeli agent since the Russian agent angle failed.

Listen to what he actually says. "The next time Iran attacks our country this is what we should do." He is not talking about Israeli interest in the least. And we know this because he goes on to say, "you take their oil infrastructure and you keep it. You recoup your costs, because these people have cost us a lot of money (paraphrasing and he is telling you that their attacks on American interests are a drain on our economy and that therefore we should frickin defend ourselves and regain our interest through force while also neutralizing their threat).

Seriously, anyone arguing he is doing this on behalf of Israel has to jump through hoops that are 20 feet in the air. It simply is not true and his own words then prove it now.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9777 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 1:47 pm to
Trumps Sec State:

"the imminent threat was that we knew that if Iran was attacked, and we believed Iran would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us, and we were not going to sit, sit there and absorb a blow before we respond."

believed Iran would be attacked - this translates to "we knew Israel planned to attack Iran, because Netanyahu told us as much"

that they would immediately come after us, and we were not going to sit, sit there and absorb a blow - this translates to "we would not be a part of this unless forced into it by Greatest Ally"


Not sure how anyone couldn't see this.



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