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JD Vance believes that Joe Rogan & a lot on this website are wrong about deportations

Posted on 3/28/26 at 2:43 pm
Posted by FLTech
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 2:43 pm
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 2:48 pm to
We literally deported 350,000 people so far in 13 months.

The self deportation numbers are bullshite - based on a phony calculation that Noem and Trump 47 use to gaslight their base into thinking its really happening.

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The 1.6 to 2 million figure isn't based on people checking a box saying "I am leaving." It is based on a decline in the number of foreign-born respondents in the monthly CPS.

The Fault: Critics argue this doesn't mean people left the country; it means they stopped answering the door.

The Causal Link: Increased enforcement and "self-deportation" ad campaigns create a "climate of fear." When immigrants see government-affiliated surveyors, they "hunker down" and refuse to participate. The survey then records a "drop" in population that is actually just a drop in participation.

Summary: The 1.6 million figure is essentially a "statistical artifact." It interprets a lack of survey data as a physical absence of people, effectively counting "fear of being found" as "proof of having left.
This post was edited on 3/28/26 at 2:51 pm
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 2:51 pm to
Tell your fricking people to leave ice alone and let them do their fricking jobs and numbers would be higher
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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473051 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 2:57 pm to
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Tell your fricking people to leave ice alone


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to SirWinston


Are you retarded?
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 2:57 pm to
Yup.. dumb as frick.
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:03 pm to
This is just plain wrong to think those numbers are accurate and anywhere that low
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
103743 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:10 pm to
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Tell your fricking people to leave ice alone and let them do their fricking jobs and numbers would be higher


I despise those people more than you know as I have to encounter them far more than you do given where I live.
This post was edited on 3/28/26 at 3:11 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
473051 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:12 pm to
No worries Winnie, he confirmed what we all knew already earlier ITT (that he's dumb as frick)
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41360 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:16 pm to
First off, how about the border? Last I checked there weren't massive convoys coming across like under Biden. Is that not correct or are you going to lie and say the borders aren't MUCH better controlled now.

Nobody claimed it would be easy to remove the illegals here in the country and when LIBERALS warn, aid and hide illegals it makes it much tougher.

I don't give a single shite about whatever numbers each side is pushing as long as the effort is being made.

Did you think 20 million illegals would magically be gone. Anyone with a fricking brain knows this will take decades and will only happen when conservatives have power and then liberals will go back to the destruction of America policies.
This post was edited on 3/28/26 at 3:17 pm
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13520 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:16 pm to
Immigration easily tops the list of this admins betrayals
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
24596 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:25 pm to
Thanks! ICE is exactly what needs to be FURTHER enforced!

Laws were passed for a reason, and the results are evident!

I support ICE!
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
5928 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Tell your fricking people to leave ice alone and let them do their fricking jobs and numbers would be higher


The poster you are responding to is straight-up lying to you, so ignore him. He was trying to push this narrative several months ago. It's widely agreed among politicians on both sides, across multiple areas of the cabinet, and the media, that there have been 2-2.5 million people self-deport since early last year.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
142966 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:35 pm to
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Yup.. dumb as frick.


I gave you an upvote!
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6658 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:38 pm to
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We literally deported 350,000 people so far in 13 months.

The self deportation numbers are bullshite - based on a phony calculation that Noem and Trump 47 use to gaslight their base into thinking its really happening.

quote:
The 1.6 to 2 million figure isn't based on people checking a box saying "I am leaving." It is based on a decline in the number of foreign-born respondents in the monthly CPS.

The Fault: Critics argue this doesn't mean people left the country; it means they stopped answering the door.

The Causal Link: Increased enforcement and "self-deportation" ad campaigns create a "climate of fear." When immigrants see government-affiliated surveyors, they "hunker down" and refuse to participate. The survey then records a "drop" in population that is actually just a drop in participation.

Summary: The 1.6 million figure is essentially a "statistical artifact." It interprets a lack of survey data as a physical absence of people, effectively counting "fear of being found" as "proof of having left.


You make claims and quote other people's work, but don't link the source?

You linked from the center for migration studies, a far left, progressive organization which wants open borders. You realized the bias of your bs, therefore you chose not to link it.

csmy.org
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
103743 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:40 pm to
What We Voted for:

mass deportations
no new wars
End to unnecessary foreign H1Bs


What we got:

Nonstop foreign excursions (4 so far)
1 new war
No mass deportations
Russia / Ukraine war still going strong
More foreign H1Bs


This post was edited on 3/28/26 at 3:42 pm
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
103743 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:42 pm to
Thats where Kristy Noem got the figure from. I just used Gemmy to summarize where got the fake number from.
This post was edited on 3/28/26 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
67453 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:43 pm to
I can't really complain on immigration. When CBP/ICE get too aggressive, the optics are terrible. And DJT has pushed the legal envelope using things like the Alien Enemies Act. Homan cleaned up the mess in Minnesota.

The Iran conflict is an absolute blackpill.
Posted by SirWinston
Kid Rock sucks
Member since Jul 2014
103743 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:44 pm to
It was stupid strategy. We should have deported as many illegals as possible from red states where there were no protests.

Instead we stupidly poked the left and now we get no mass deportations from here on out.

Tampon Tim and Jacob Walz won. The leftists out strategized Trump and ended mass deportations in about a year.
This post was edited on 3/28/26 at 3:45 pm
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
27463 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 3:53 pm to
Thanks so much. Retarded people like me feel special when people like you do great things for us. It means a lot!
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22880 posts
Posted on 3/28/26 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

The self deportation numbers are bullshite - based on a phony calculation that Noem and Trump 47 use to gaslight their base into thinking its really happening


Lol.....

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