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You stand in line in airport security so that other people don’t get hurt feelings

Posted on 3/26/26 at 6:50 pm
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2493 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 6:50 pm
If we were completely serious about airplane security we would be profiling people.

But, TSA probably is as much a jobs program as anything else.

Eliminate the TSA and go back to private security and give them a free hand. I believe 9/11 was a failure of government more than private airport security.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172354 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 6:52 pm to
I had mentioned last year that going back to private security would make sense because at least travelers and airports wouldn't be left to the whims of stupid political games in DC
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
19705 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 6:52 pm to
Amen!
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37323 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 6:52 pm to
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we were completely serious about airplane security we would be profiling people.

But, TSA probably is as much a jobs program as anything else.


Exactly. We know who the potential problems are, they could be searched.

Simple metal detectors and locked cockpits would solve issues as they are, but we all go through this insane security charade every flight
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10173 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 6:57 pm to
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locked cockpits would solve issues as they are


There have been enough instances of pilots killing their passengers that I’m not a fan of just locking everyone else out. I think 2 or 3 others on the flight should have keys to unlock it in case of a suicidal or terrorist pilot.
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
497 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 6:57 pm to
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believe 9/11 was a failure of government more than private airport security.

All they had to do was reinforce the airplane's cockpit door in order to prevent another 9/11 from happening. Instead they created another government bureaucracy that will live on in perpetuity.
I'm sure that there are exceptions, but, most TSA employees make McDonald's employees look like Chick-File-e employees.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15137 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:01 pm to
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profiling people.

Two of my favorite profiling stories:
1) Flight to Frankfurt was late, missed connection to Istanbul. Had to check into a Courtyard near the airport after having been awake for 22ish hours. It was maybe 1AM. Guard shack in front of the hotel, tall fencing with barbed wire on it protecting the parking lot and building. Metal detector at the entrance to the lobby. I do the unpacking, etc., set off the detector anyway. Start to pull anything metal off of myself, they just waved me through.

2) Tel Aviv departure. I saw security outside the building watching passengers, and I knew what was about to happen. I slowed a little bit and watched Latina ex wife breeze right through, and I got stopped (being a swarthy looking brown ish fellow.) The irony is that she gave the wrong answer at immigration departure after we checked in, and she was questioned for far longer than I was (Latina attitude does not match up well with Israeli.)

I'm fine with both. But we can't do it, because of AIPAC. Just kidding, it's AWFULs and the DEI crew.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172354 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:02 pm to
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There have been enough instances of pilots killing their passengers that I’m not a fan of just locking everyone else out

Please quantify it then so the rest of us can see that this is a reasonable risk analysis.
Posted by Django Unchained
Member since Sep 2025
747 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:03 pm to
Liberalism means we have to mind-fck ourselves that the blue haired 85yr old grandma might blow up a plane.

Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2493 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:03 pm to
Interestingly, you will notice on many flights that there must always be (2) people in the cockpit.

Ex: Co-pilot goes out to the restroom a flight attendant takes his place in the cockpit while he is gone.

One wonders about the training class for the FA that has to watch over the pilot or co-pilot in those instances…

Also, you will see the drink cart turned sideways in the aisle with an FA bracing it sometimes when the cockpit door is open.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2493 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:05 pm to
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Istanbul


I was planning a bird hunt in Turkey next year (first visit) but flared off for awhile due to the Iran stuff. Maybe 2028.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
27410 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:06 pm to
They will never go back to private TSA. No way. Why? See how much money was flown out of the airport in Minneapolis.

A private firm would never allow that to happen
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
172354 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:06 pm to
On a different note I've heard it's a great food country
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4015 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:07 pm to
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One wonders about the training class for the FA that has to watch over the pilot or co-pilot in those instances…

Former airline employee, dated many flight attendants. They don’t know a thing about the flight deck except where to get a ride after the flight.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2473 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:08 pm to
Profiling would absolutely be effective and efficient.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10173 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:12 pm to
The loon from what was it Indonesia? Some freak in France or Germany that deliberately crashed into the Alps. 9-11 of course. A pilot in India crashing his plane. I’d rather have a fighting chance to stop the pilot than having to try and break down a door. United 93 might have ended differently if the passengers had easier access to the cockpit.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
156286 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

If we were completely serious about airplane security we would be profiling people
has this actually been ruled unconstitutional

or is it just called racist and that's the end of it
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15137 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:15 pm to
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great food country

Turkish Airlines has the best food, even in coach, of any airline I've ever been on. I'm predisposed to love Turkish food, since half of my heritage is from the area, but damn it's great. And if you fly through IST, you *must* get access to the Turkish Airlines lounge. Two stories, fresh chow being made 24x7, olive bars, fresh honeycomb, it's insanely good.

You can fly almost anywhere in the world in business class on TK for about $3500. You'll have to connect in IST, but you can also get a mid-day tour of Istanbul for free.
Posted by Judnnc
Member since Jun 2025
545 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:36 pm to
Same reason you have to pay before you pump, show your ID to buy Sudafed, and jump through a million hoops jus to log into your email account:

A few ruins it for many
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
15137 posts
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:44 pm to
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show your ID to buy Sudafed,

And yet the meth problem was solved 20 years ago, right? Right? Right?
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