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Say we didn’t attack Iran. What happens when Iran shuts off the Strait of Hormuz whenever…

Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:26 pm
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:26 pm
they feel like it?

Would we be under the constant threat of overnight $120-$200bbl oil?
This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Riverside
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:29 pm to
Iran’s threat really backfired on them. If they try to choke the Strait, it starves them of all income. That’s why they relented yesterday.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:32 pm to
It’s largely a hollow threat that they only played as a last resort.



Shutting it off in isolation would turn the entire world against them.


Hence why they never did it until pushed to extremes.
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:33 pm to
They could just pick and choose which vessels they let through.

Oil could shoot up any minute they want.
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:34 pm to

That wasn’t the global threat had we not acted.

They made the global threat directly at the negotiating table: enough enriched material to make 11 nuclear weapons.
Posted by ElChupacabra
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:34 pm to
How many times did they close it off previously? Zero times
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

It’s largely a hollow threat that they only played as a last resort.


How is doubling the price of oil a hollow threat?
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:37 pm to
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That wasn’t the global threat had we not acted. They made the global threat directly at the negotiating table: enough enriched material to make 11 nuclear weapons.


I know, but how many people knew how vulnerable oil prices were to the strait until now?
This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:37 pm to
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How is doubling the price of oil a hollow threat?



Because everyone knows they are cutting off their nose to spite their face.




They shut down the strait then even their “allies” are even against them.


Hence why Trump was begging for Chinas help.


This is why even with Iraq baiting them they didn’t do it in the past
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:37 pm to
Maybe I’m just stupid.

If the straight is 30 miles wide.. how hard is it to get ships through it ?

Surely there not in danger the entire way through

Also, yet another reason America should have its entire oil supply in house and not relying on goat frickers to shut off our supply
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:39 pm to
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Because everyone knows they are cutting off their nose to spite their face.


The threat is still there though. We’ve all seen what they do to their own people.
Posted by Riverside
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:39 pm to
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How many times did they close it off previously? Zero times


The mostly peaceful regime, right?
Posted by CastleBravo
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:44 pm to
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How is doubling the price of oil a hollow threat?


It is certainly not a credible threat. Especially not $200 oil.

This is not the 1970s. There are many other sources of oil, and the Saudis are no longer dependent on the Strait of Hormuz.

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Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:45 pm to
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The threat is still there though.



Yes geography exists.


Because someone might do something that is detrimental to themselves is a dumb reason for war.


There are numerous other global choke points where similar economic issues can arise

Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:48 pm to
Iran has never mined the Persian Gulf!
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:49 pm to
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It is certainly not a credible threat. Especially not $200 oil.


It hit $120 in the blink of an eye. We are lucky we already had our Navy in the gulf.
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:51 pm to
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There are numerous other global choke points where similar economic issues can arise


Not really.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:57 pm to
Oh really?


How about the Suez Canal, the Panama Canal, the malacca strait etc


The suez was shut down for much longer than this


It cost Egypt.
This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 12:59 pm to
Mining of the Persian Gulf never happened!
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 3/15/26 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

It’s largely a hollow threat that they only played as a last resort. Shutting it off in isolation would turn the entire world against them. Hence why they never did it until pushed to extremes.


Iran has not been operating in isolation. They've been getting funding and weapons and materials from Russia and China. They've (Iran) also reportedly been supporting militia and terrorist groups in other parts of the middle east. That doesn't seem like a passive country or a hollow threat to me. It seems like a persistent threat and actual source of conflict in and around the Persian Gulf.

This post was edited on 3/15/26 at 2:07 pm
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