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Reminder: Persian People Are Not the Muslim Overlords Who Ruled the Nation Since 1979

Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:02 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:10 pm to
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Persian People Are Not the Muslim Overlords Who Ruled the Nation Since 1979


Persians in Iran have been Muslim, ruled by some form of Muslim overlords, since the 7th Century.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:10 pm to
Persian monarchs incoming with their biggest export being hot babes
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Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:11 pm to
27% roughly of Iran identifies as openly Muslim in polling

This was undoubtedly higher before a totalitarian theocracy came in a took away literally all of their rights which would’ve understandably turned off many from Islam
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:12 pm to
Well said. The language on the flag being in another language pretty much says it all.
Posted by TDsngumbo
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:13 pm to
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27% roughly or Ian identifies as openly Muslim in polling

That may be true, but how much of that 27% identifies as Muslim because they have to identify as Muslim? I'm not saying they're Christian, and so what if they are Muslim, but the point remains the government that we just eliminated forced that shite upon those people.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:16 pm to
I imagine that number includes the people who are truly supporters of the regime and also those who are doing it out of fear. Split that number and you have roughly 15% as regime supporters which lines up with the usually reported number of 10-20% as supporters of the regime
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 3:17 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:18 pm to
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This was undoubtedly higher before a totalitarian theocracy came in a took away literally all of their rights which would’ve understandably turned off many from Islam


They overthrew another totalitarian regime that was led by a Muslim, and 90% of the country (ish) was Muslim when that regime took over.

This echo chamber talking point trying to separate Persians and Iran from Muslims is retard-level stuff.

As I said, the Persians in Iran have been ruled by some form of Muslim overlord since the 7th century.

Current regime - Muslim
Pahlavi dynasty - Muslim
Qajar dynasty - Muslim
Zand dynasty - Muslim

Mohammad Mosaddegh was also a Muslim.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:19 pm to
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That may be true, but how much of that 27% identifies as Muslim because they have to identify as Muslim?

The Persians in the area have identified as Muslim for over 1300 years.

It wasn't some new trend that emerged in 1979.
Posted by ezride25
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:20 pm to
So the Iranians are Islamophobes with justifiable reason?
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:21 pm to
You could call the Shaw a dictator if you want, although I think you could just as easily call him a traditional monarch who wielded power as one did, which modernity would call a dictator.

To call him totalitarian is just false by definition. The Persians enjoyed immense rights under him
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 3:22 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:23 pm to
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So the Iranians are Islamophobes with justifiable reason?

Precisely.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:26 pm to
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You could call the Shaw a dictator if you want


Yeah I will, because he was.

We are already dealing with revisionist history with the Muslim stuff. Let's not add on more with the Shah not being a dictator.

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To call him totalitarian is just false by definition.

When you create a civil war/revolution due to your brutality and widespread police state, it's splitting hairs, but I'll let you have this one.

When you have a secret police to eliminate dissent and engage in torture, it gets a bit grey
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:27 pm to
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Precisely.

I'm not shocked you would get this so wrong based off a clip on X.

Legend.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:31 pm to
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Important To Understand: The people who govern Iran aren’t even Iranian or Persian. They are Arab Islamists

This is ignorance on stilts. The Supreme Leader of Iran was an Azeri. Azeri’s are about 1/3 of Iran’s population. Iran (Persia) was converted to Islam in the 7th century AD. The Persian people are mostly Muslim.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:34 pm to
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27% roughly of Iran identifies as openly Muslim in polling

13% of the UK is from Muslim lands. Many of those are not even true Muslims. But this is a high enough percentage for the majority of this board to think the UK is lost. You are saying Iran has twice that number of true, dyed-in-the-wool Muslims.
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:36 pm to
I’m just reporting what the numbers on the ground typically say baw
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:39 pm to
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When you create a civil war/revolution due to your brutality and widespread police state, it's splitting hairs, but I'll let you have this one.

When you have a secret police to eliminate dissent and engage in torture, it gets a bit grey

Not really. Totalitarians insist that you think the thoughts they want - at least they insist on evidence of it. I don’t think any case can be made that the Shah was totalitarian. Maybe he wanted to be, but his western puppet masters would not allow it.

But you are certainly correct that he WAS a dictator.
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 3/4/26 at 3:39 pm to
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I’m just reporting what the numbers on the ground typically say baw

And I appreciate that info. I had not seen that.
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