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Options premiums plays
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:17 am
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:17 am
Do any of you own stock and sell weekly call options to generate weekly income? I am considering doing this with 10-12k of my roth portfolio to slowly generate cash for trading in a tax free way. I am asking Chat GPT and it likes HIMS and MARA as potential buy and hold for a year stocks with high options volume and analyst expectations of at least 30% stock price increase by the end of the year.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:34 am to bobaftt1212
Its a great strategy if you own a ton of shares in a lot of high vol stocks. You're also not going to make a ton off the premiums selling weeklys if the stock is cheap or unless you're selling 10 contracts.
Also need to be watching the vix. If the vix is high, better to be selling options. If the vix is low, better to be buying options.
Also need to be watching the vix. If the vix is high, better to be selling options. If the vix is low, better to be buying options.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:35 am to bobaftt1212
Dude. NBIS. Easily.
You have the perfect amount to do it, and you can easily collect 200-300 weekly going $5-10 out of the money.
Premiums are insane. IV is typically 90+
Your March 6th $110s are going for about $3.90 right now
You have the perfect amount to do it, and you can easily collect 200-300 weekly going $5-10 out of the money.
Premiums are insane. IV is typically 90+
Your March 6th $110s are going for about $3.90 right now
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 9:36 am
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:37 am to bobaftt1212
For our savings ($70k+) which is sitting in RH brokerage making 3.35% I sell daily 0DTE cash secured puts on XSP (S&P 500 mini index) which is an index options fund.
The tax treatment on it is 60% Long-term capital gains/40% STCG even selling dailies/weeklies/monthlies, etc...always settles for cash, you never get assigned since it's european style. So the premium I collect is taxed at 15% (LTCG) instead of 24% (federal) on more than half of it which is nice.
So basically I sell the option, it expires (or I close it before) end of day, keep the premium I made (~97-98% win rate doing this for almost year now, lost on 5 out of 200-ish trades) which is usually between $20-$30 per contract, and then make the 3.35% interest on the balance in the account from interest on RH since its cash sitting there at the end of the trading day. Basically just a way to supercharge the savings a bit while being pretty safe on the options I am picking.
RH recently announced starting next month they will still honor interest on cash secured puts (or cash cover spreads) that are on-going too. I will probably switch to weeklies or monthlies on XSP to save a little on the fee side (its 39 cents per trade) while still making the 3.35% on that cash.
It all comes out to about a 10% rate of return annualized which I can live with on our savings
The tax treatment on it is 60% Long-term capital gains/40% STCG even selling dailies/weeklies/monthlies, etc...always settles for cash, you never get assigned since it's european style. So the premium I collect is taxed at 15% (LTCG) instead of 24% (federal) on more than half of it which is nice.
So basically I sell the option, it expires (or I close it before) end of day, keep the premium I made (~97-98% win rate doing this for almost year now, lost on 5 out of 200-ish trades) which is usually between $20-$30 per contract, and then make the 3.35% interest on the balance in the account from interest on RH since its cash sitting there at the end of the trading day. Basically just a way to supercharge the savings a bit while being pretty safe on the options I am picking.
RH recently announced starting next month they will still honor interest on cash secured puts (or cash cover spreads) that are on-going too. I will probably switch to weeklies or monthlies on XSP to save a little on the fee side (its 39 cents per trade) while still making the 3.35% on that cash.
It all comes out to about a 10% rate of return annualized which I can live with on our savings
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 9:48 am
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:45 am to thunderbird1100
So you're selling several thousand contracts every morning? Around which Delta?
Posted on 2/25/26 at 9:50 am to bayoubengals88
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So you're selling several thousand contracts every morning? Around which Delta?
1 contract, it trades just under 700, so 1 contract for a cash secured put needs just under $70k to cover it
I aim to make $20-$30 each day, it usually falls in their 85-90% range of "chance of making a profit" so delta around .15ish?
Just obviously depends on the IV at the time. I've gotten deals as close to $40 on super high IV days, and about $20 on lower volatility days
Monday was a pretty wild day I saw a weekly (expiring Friday 2/27) for almost $200 (effectively $40/day) and was way way way out of the money, like $667 strike when XSP was trading $683-$684 I think that morning (up to $692 right now). That same option is now worth like $21-$24
This is why I like moving to weeklies or monthlies once they pay interest on that cash balance still because could have closed that trade to secure $175-$180 and opened a Friday expiring one today for another $90-$100 that was like a $679 strike still. Win both of those and thats an easy $265-$280 for the week (on top of interest earned on the cash at 3.35% which is what another $40-$50 or so). That would be a nice week making over $300 on just our savings
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 10:02 am
Posted on 2/25/26 at 10:58 am to thunderbird1100
What happens on those 5 trades you lose? You said you don’t get assigned, do you just close out the trade for a loss?
Seems like one bad day due to macro events could wipe out months of premium grinding.
Seems like one bad day due to macro events could wipe out months of premium grinding.
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 11:09 am
Posted on 2/25/26 at 11:06 am to thunderbird1100
quote:When does that happen?
This is why I like moving to weeklies or monthlies once they pay interest on that cash balance
Posted on 2/25/26 at 12:17 pm to bobaftt1212
This is all just gambling. "I asked chatgpt if I should pick red or black on roulette".
For all of you options bros, compare your performance selling covered calls to the performance of the underlying equities if you bought and hold. You'll quickly realize this "income" you are generating is just capping your upside.
For all of you options bros, compare your performance selling covered calls to the performance of the underlying equities if you bought and hold. You'll quickly realize this "income" you are generating is just capping your upside.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 12:33 pm to thunderbird1100
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It all comes out to about a 10% rate of return annualized which I can live with on our savings
You’re not running a “supercharged savings account.” You’re running a short-vol strategy.
A 97–98% win rate is exactly what short 0DTE puts should look like. Small steady wins, occasional large loss. That’s the design.
And it’s actually worse than just owning the S&P 500. If you own the index, you get unlimited upside and can ride out drawdowns over time. If you sell 0DTE puts, your upside is capped at the tiny premium, but your downside is real and can be realized in a single session. You give up the big rally days and fully eat the sharp down days.
It’s fine if you understand that. Just call it what it is, short volatility income with tail risk
Posted on 2/25/26 at 2:54 pm to Craft
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What happens on those 5 trades you lose? You said you don’t get assigned, do you just close out the trade for a loss?
It just settles for cash, no assignments.
So if my strike was sold at 680, and it ended at 679, it deducts $100 from my cash balance, i keep the original premium still.
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Seems like one bad day due to macro events could wipe out months of premium grinding.
This isnt a passive thing completely, which is part of only 5 losers over the last year-ish or so. 1 loser was bad $324 net of my premium (tariff day!), the others were less bad around $50 or less lost net of premium. All in all I am around $5k annualized net before interest is added.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 2:55 pm to bayoubengals88
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When does that happen?
March 9
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Effective on or after March 9, 2026, Robinhood is updating its program to pay interest on cash held as collateral for eligible options strategies—such as cash-secured puts, credit spreads, and iron condors—for Gold subscribers.
From a youtube on announcement they did
Posted on 2/25/26 at 4:05 pm to TigahsOnTop
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And it’s actually worse than just owning the S&P 500. If you own the index, you get unlimited upside and can ride out drawdowns over time
As I said previously, this is savings, not long term investments. This cash goes up and down from drawdowns and contributions on the regular. We might need a large sum at any point quickly...the S&P has done great recently but if I just set it and forget it in there and we need a large sum in a year it dives 20%, well that sucks. The whole point of the strategy is just to boost savings return and keep it extremely liquid with not much of a chance of any real downturn. The upswings in s&p are great but downswings can be huge too. You forgot to mention im capping my downside as well, which is the main point on something like liquid savings money you typically want to have.
On top of that, this is just fun for me.
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 2/25/26 at 4:38 pm to thunderbird1100
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You forgot to mention im capping my downside as well, which is the main point on something like liquid savings money you typically want to have.
Maybe this is the point I’m fundamentally misunderstanding. Isn’t the entire point of selling a put that you agree to absorb the downside (aka, you are insurance for the market tanking). This seems like the exact opposite of what you’d want from “savings”.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:03 pm to bobaftt1212
I have no less than 3 covered call options open at any given time. I would say it averages around $50-100/week, nothing crazy. For example, I have a 250 AMZN open expiring Friday. I made $20 on it at VERY low risk of being called away. (If AMZN soared to 250 in that period, I’d be happy to sell them anyway) Doesn’t sound like much, but I’m not planning on selling these long positions anyway. So why not take the premiums while I wait?
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:37 pm to bobaftt1212
Not usually a good strategy to sell calls in a Roth unless you’ll be taking distributions in the next few years. You want the Roth to be your most aggressive allocation as its tax free growth. Selling calls limits your upside thereby limiting your growth.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:44 pm to TigahsOnTop
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Maybe this is the point I’m fundamentally misunderstanding. Isn’t the entire point of selling a put that you agree to absorb the downside (aka, you are insurance for the market tanking). This seems like the exact opposite of what you’d want from “savings”.
I'm selling typically well out of the money options expiring same day, again only lost 5 times out of 200ish trades. If I was being riskier I could shoot for stuff much closer to that its trading at and earn much higher premiums, im fine with $20-$30 premiums on things that have a very very high chance of winning and I monitor things closely as to not have many super "blow up" days as I've had just 1 of those so far ($300ish loss). The other losses I had were easily made up within 2-3 days of trading again. Whole point again is offering decent upside (capping it - yes) while remaining liquid and not having any big downswings really. It's easy to step back and let super high IV days just got sometimes to avoid any potential blow ups as well. I'm not chasing max yield here, just safe steady return typically.
Again, if I left $70k in the s&p back in 2022 and let it ride, then needed a large chunk of that end of year, my $70k turned into $57k. I'm just mitigating that risk by capping upside but limiting downside in a big way as well. I'm earning my 3-4% interest as if its in HYSA then banking some bucks on top of that from way out of the money options premiums to bring it to around a 10% return staying extremely liquid. Whole point is keeping it all liquid and limiting any real long term downside.
It's also nice 60% of net earnings on the premiums are taxed at 15% and not 24% federally with index options like XSP. Doesn't sound like a ton but on $5k profit its $450 in tax savings.
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 2/25/26 at 7:41 pm to thunderbird1100
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I'm not chasing max yield here, just safe steady return typically.
This. If you’re already long on your position, why not take safe steady short premiums along the way. I wish I would have learned about this strategy much sooner
Posted on 2/26/26 at 10:06 am to thunderbird1100
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Whole point is keeping it all liquid and limiting any real long term downside.
During a real sell-off, you would get completely wiped out. Luckily we haven't seen one since you started using this strategy, but don't mistake that for "limiting downside risk".
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