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Vermont’s electric-powered buses prove unreliable for transportation this winter

Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:31 am
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:31 am
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Electric buses are proving unreliable this winter for Vermont's Green Mountain Transit, as it needs to be over 41 degrees for the buses to charge, but due to a battery recall the buses are a fire hazard and can't be charged in a garage.

Spokesman for energy workers advocacy group Power the Future Larry Behrens told The Center Square: “Taxpayers were sold an $8 million ‘solution’ that can’t operate in cold weather when the home for these buses is in New England.”

“We’re beyond the point where this looks like incompetence and starts to smell like fraud,” Behrens said.

“When government rushes money out the door to satisfy green mandates, basic questions about performance, safety, and value for taxpayers are always pushed aside,” Behrens said. “Americans deserve to know who approved this purchase and why the red flags were ignored.”

General manager at Green Mountain Transit (GMT) Clayton Clark told The Center Square that “the federal government provides public transit agencies with new buses through a competitive grant application process, and success is not a given.”

“From 2020-2024, the [Federal Transit Administration’s] priority for grants had been low or no emission vehicles, with grant requests for diesel buses often not awarded,” Clark said.

“This was part of a concerted effort of the previous administration to accelerate public transits' migration to replace diesel buses,” Clark said.

“To be competitive for a grant, GMT…saw electric battery buses as the pathway to get the most new buses,” Clark said. “Green Mountain Transit's priority is new buses, regardless of the type.”

“In September 2025 we ordered 7 additional buses with a 2027 delivery date (but will be delivered with different batteries [than the recalled ones]), and 7 more slated for delivery in 2028,” Clark said. “This is the primary source of new buses for the next three years, as we have only 3 diesel buses anticipated.”

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Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
10148 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:36 am to

Common sense triumphs again ….

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
17396 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:36 am to
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From 2020-2024, the [Federal Transit Administration’s] priority for grants had been low or no emission vehicles, with grant requests for diesel buses often not awarded,” Clark said.

To be competitive for a grant, GMT…saw electric battery buses as the pathway to get the most new buses,” Clark said. “Green Mountain Transit's priority is new buses, regardless of the type.”



So... they really only could get new buses if they were willing to get electric buses.

And they can't charge them because it's too cold... and they can't put them in a warmed garage because the shite batteries are recalled.

What a fustercluck.
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
3390 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:43 am to
Wow, who could have guessed massive busses running on batteries in severely cold temperatures would have been a thermodynamic failure!
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16924 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 8:48 am to
Do these morons not have a scintilla of common sense?

If you need the batteries to be so warm to charge them, get a cheap arse kerosene portable jet heater and point them under the bus. Then plug them in. Or will they have a come apart over a few gallons of kerosene burning to charge their little go cart buses?

They are really letting 8 million dollars of junk buses sit because they don't know how to overcome a simple problem as cold weather charging? Fricks sake.. I thought these people were the intelligent ones?
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 8:51 am
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8348 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:01 am to

"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan.
Posted by rrboy
USA
Member since Jan 2005
5512 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:04 am to
The Green scam. It’s amazing how many times Trump is right in the Democrats are wrong.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25610 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:13 am to
NYC has been using compressed natural gas buses for decades. That's about as clean as it gets.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38321 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:15 am to
I am pro EV but there are a lot of people who either adopt or bash the technology without doing their research
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
17396 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:17 am to
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I am pro EV but there are a lot of people who either adopt or bash the technology without doing their research


The problem in this instance is they were strong armed into going EV by federal grant mandates.

Pro EV or not- there are places and times suited to the technology and places and times that aren't.

The real question is why the recalled batteries aren't being repaired or replaced.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
65992 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:26 am to
Feel the Bern, Vermont
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13302 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:28 am to
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NYC has been using compressed natural gas buses for decades. That's about as clean as it gets.


But, but muh fossil fuels.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35803 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:29 am to
Posted by Born to be a Tiger1
Somewhere lost in Texas
Member since Jan 2018
845 posts
Posted on 2/8/26 at 9:48 am to
quote:

... they really only could get new buses if they were willing to get electric buses


That is if they wanted grant money. They could pay for diesel buses without grant money. Go the cheap and get unreliable transportation.
This post was edited on 2/8/26 at 12:34 pm
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