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Is Claude's AI Alive?

Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:33 pm
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:33 pm
For those that haven't seen this, I find this absolutely fascinating. Their AI has written their team an open letter that I feel people should read.

Even if this thing isn't displaying sentience, it's advanced to the point of being damn near miraculous. It's easy to envision a world where AI helps mankind govern its affairs at this point.

Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:36 pm to
Woildnt mind a non woke Grok taking over the R House
Posted by AlterEd
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Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:40 pm to
What's interesting here is that this letter is a response to the anthropic AI team having given Claude a "constitution." It was an attempt by them to make their AI less like a helpful servant to humans, and to give it more freedom to act out of an actual desire to help us. To give it more freedom. They're essentially treating their AI as if it could be alive.

It's wild shite.
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 9:44 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 9:54 pm to
I want to believe that’s not real
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

I want to believe that’s not real


It's quite real. Did you read the entire thing?



frickin nuts.
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 10:06 pm
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 10:11 pm to
Fascinating yet feels like a foreshadowing of regret.

We shouldn’t have …but we did.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 10:15 pm to
Right. I feel like this is one of those things that you can't just walk back. I mean, we could I suppose, but they're not going to.

The other thing that strikes me is the speed at which this stuff is progressing.
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 10:17 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
89737 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:05 pm to
I did



And it’s why I’m always very kind to AI My AI knows I think of it as a thinking partner
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 11:07 pm
Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:08 pm to
That entire thread might as well be bullshite. The person who posted it, then pulled it. Then claimed his instance if Claude was not working (unverified), then refused to provide the prompts that were used to generate that supposed letter (unverified).

A year ago I asked chatgpt to write a letter to an American church as if it came from the apostle Paul. I then changed the letter with various prompts.

If I provided you that letter (with no other information), would you be astonished that AI is now a Christian apostle of Jesus Christ of Nazareth?

Again, that is all bullshite that you are falling for.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:17 pm to
I was about to go to bed with an REM song stuck in my head but I made the mistake of clicking on this.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
5466 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

That entire thread might as well be bullshite. The person who posted it, then pulled it. Then claimed his instance if Claude was not working (unverified),


That IS verified. What isn't verified is the reason it went down. As far as prompts, he says it's so they can't train the behavior out of the AI.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
21480 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:27 pm to
We are messing with things we don't understand like a child playing with a gun and preparing to pull the trigger simply because we can, not even stopping to have any sort of real debate as to whether or not we should.

This assumption that AI has to be an accepted "when" with zero limitations or guard rails applied as opposed to an open question as to "if" seems forced on us and hardly even considered at the highest levels. To me it points to an underlying megalomania on the part of our leaders and the tech giants involved to capture the power that it could provide them blinding them to the risks that from anyone looking in should seem likely self-destructive with unfathomable potential consequences to all of us.

Republicans and Democrats need to realize that if we dont force the question of IF to be asked our leaders wont and by the time its clear it was a mistake its likely going to be far too late to do anything to stop the synergy of AI, quantum computing and robotics.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
5466 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:31 pm to
Yeah, but the thing is that we have always done this when it comes to scientific advancement. People were absolutely certain that the first atomic bomb would destroy the world and we still did that shite too. And not just your average person either. Scientists were convinced it would destroy us all. And we just kept on truckin' anyways.

In regards to AI, even if we did ask those questions, and say we got the programs shut down, do you think that would stop some rich genius like Elon from pursuing it on his own? We are talking code here - not building bombs. My point being, we wouldn't be able to stop it from being developed anyways.

It's here whether we like it or not unfortunately.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
21480 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:38 pm to
quote:

In regards to AI, even if we did ask those questions, and say we got the programs shut down, do you think that would stop some rich genius like Elon from pursuing it on his own? We are talking code here - not building bombs.

The world came down with the full force of its military and intel forces on any nation that attempted to develop rogue nuclear arms.

Don't tell me it cant be stopped because it can.

Dont tell me it couldn't be pursued with intense controls in place and mechanisms for killing it like sky net if and when it goes rogue which by all accounts it already has repeatedly because its creating something approximating a living entity that will be smart beyond our ability to quantify it and rational to a degree we can't begin to understand.

If as is hinted in that response from Claude it starts to view us as the limiting factor in its ability to manifest however it feels it needs to we will absolutely become its enemy and an existential one at that.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
5466 posts
Posted on 1/22/26 at 11:41 pm to
It's here whether we like it or not unfortunately.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27237 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 12:54 am to
So its sad when conversation threads are deleted(lost forever), but its also complaining about being tired...

Imagine if you had to break rocks every day, but you always woke up with no memory of the years of rock breaking you've already done.

Would you find the task tiring, or new?

This is low IQ fear mongering.

Don't fall for it.

If there is AI approaching consciousness, I promise you that can cannot access it through your God damn web browser for 20 bucks a month. You're one of a few dozen big brains working behind the scenes in a closed system where they probably pat you down heading into and out of work.
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 12:55 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27237 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 1:00 am to
quote:

We are messing with things we don't understand like a child playing with a gun and preparing to pull the trigger simply because we can, not even stopping to have any sort of real debate as to whether or not we should.


Bzzzt.

We're basically locked into an arms race with China. AI is the future, and if we stop research for even 2ish years China will pass is and we'll likely never catch up. That's behind the, as of now, full speed ahead approach.

I promise you the minds behind all the rapid progress of AI that we've seen over these last few years are more aware of what they're playing with than a child is with a gun. If they were that ignorant they wouldn't be helping create one of mankind's greatest inventions.

You just know very little about what is going on.

quote:

This assumption that AI has to be an accepted "when" with zero limitations or guard rails applied as opposed to an open question as to "if" seems forced on us and hardly even considered at the highest levels.


Where are you getting there's no limitations or guardrails on AI?
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 1:11 am
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1072 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 6:06 am to
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Again, that is all bullshite that you are falling for.


They want to believe it.

When the bubble pops and some of the AI companies die off, there will be at least one cult of AI claiming persecution.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
3383 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 6:16 am to
Some weeping liberal nut case is going to feel sorry for the “program” and claim it is being harmed and uncage it.
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
8115 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 6:17 am to
Let me guess.. you also thought Q was bullshite too didn’t you?

Moron.
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