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re: Top Chef tonight...

Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:01 am to
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:01 am to
I thought Hoseah had a very good representation of Louisiana with his meal. However I could not get over his roux. I have no idea how that was not burnt. The judges knew absolutely nothing about gumbo too.. They had this thinking that a roux HAD to be dark. Not every gumbo is made with a dark roux and his literally looked burnt.
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:05 am to
i wish they wouldve got rid of stefon. hes become so annoying, but im sure they kept him just to keep stirring the pot.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:16 am to
I think he is the best of the chefs but I think he is lazy and doesnt really care about winning it.. Just thinks it should be given to him.
Posted by TinyTigerPaws
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:30 am to
yeah when someone said roux needed to be black, I thought WTF?
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28633 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:33 am to
Stefan is indeed arrogant. However, a lot of your good chefs today have that "chip" on their shoulder. With that said, he is good and he knows he's good. However, he does need to demonstrate a little more that he actually cares.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 8:42 am to
Thats what had me wondering if his gumbo was burnt.. His roux looked like burn tar. Stefon said it tasted like shite too.. So I wonder if it really was any good.
Posted by LSUBALL
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:17 am to
Too many smoke breaks.....nasty!
Posted by TheDude
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:29 am to
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yeah when someone said roux needed to be black, I thought WTF?


Me too, my roux is usually a dark peanut butter color.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 9:31 am to
Thats my problem with his roux.. it WAS black.. That had to taste burnt and bitter.. But what do the judges know? Im sure Emeril would bite his tongue and the others dont even know that gumbo is never served over fricking grits!
Posted by Dallas Tiger
Dallas
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 10:04 am to
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Thats my problem with his roux.. it WAS black.. That had to taste burnt and bitter.


And I make a dark roux but it only takes 15 minutes or so.

I'm surprised nobody made an etouffee. I think I might make that this weekend.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 10:14 am to
Yea it generally only takes me 20-30 min to make a good dark roux.. lol but he was saying that he spent half his time (2.5 hours) making the roux.. Uhhhh huh?

BTW I just cannot see how Carla was NOT knocked for not knowing how to shell an oyster! shite this is Top CHEF right?
Posted by Dallas Tiger
Dallas
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Posted on 2/19/09 at 10:27 am to
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BTW I just cannot see how Carla was NOT knocked for not knowing how to shell an oyster! shite this is Top CHEF right?


Well, it is the final product, not how you get there. I suppose if you are "Top Chef" you can hire a minimum wager to shuck. I thought she should have been booted for not serving alcohol...Blaspheme!!!
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 10:52 am to
Yea forgot about the alcohol thing.. That was bad.. But they do knock them alot for the skills technique wise. I think not being able to shuck an oyster is pretty bad. Thats like how long it took them to skin an eel for me.
Posted by TinyTigerPaws
Member since Aug 2004
35039 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 11:30 am to
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Im sure Emeril would bite his tongue and the others dont even know that gumbo is never served over fricking grits!


Emeril mentioned it being the first time he had ever had gumbo and grits. Remember Carla did this in the Superbowl challenge. i don't think I really ever want to stray away from having my gumbo with rice.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28633 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 11:33 am to
Gumbo and potato salad is pretty damn good fwiw.
Posted by TinyTigerPaws
Member since Aug 2004
35039 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 11:58 am to
yes, it is, but to me, it belongs on the side.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 12:33 pm to
FYI I was talking about them claiming the roux HAD to be black.. That he prob bit his tongue on. They were completely wrong when they said that. Roux should NEVER EVER EVER be "Black" really dark brown yes.. black no. That is the sign that you burnt the roux. But Stefan was right there are all different colors of roux.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101886 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:10 pm to
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But Stefan was right there are all different colors of roux.


And no way is right or wrong when it comes to making gumbo.

Last night's show was frustrating.

I get perturbed when outsiders talk about black and Indian influences on Creole food, and act as though there are no Italian ones (At one time, the French Quarter was the second biggest concentration of Sicilian immigrants in the United States!!!), and any attempt to introduce some Italian influence is completely foreign. It shows a real ignorance of the cuisine.

It's also frustrating watching a final elination of a show for purportedly America's "Top Chef" watching them all struggle to make some facsimile of Gumbo.

Every grandmother in South Louisiana should be able to make a great gumbo, but I would never judge a chef who only cooks in San Francisco or New York, on how he or she can conceive of one in the span of a couple of hours.
This post was edited on 2/19/09 at 1:12 pm
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:18 pm to
Not to mention they never mentioned the Indians!
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101886 posts
Posted on 2/19/09 at 1:26 pm to
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they never mentioned the Indians!


No, they did.
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