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When China, Russia, and Iran realized, “We’re fricked.”
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:12 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:12 am
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When Caracas cracked: How the US broke through Venezuela's Iranian, Russian, and Chinese defenses
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The dildo of truth and consequences rarely arrives lubed.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 5:15 am
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:20 am to Geekboy
The real Pandora’s box. 
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:37 am to Geekboy
Again, we have been mislead for decades now about our capabilities. We merely tell the public enough not to ask anymore questions and since no missiles hit our cities daily no one thinks about this again.
Ukraine has knocked out power in Russia to 600,000 people today.
Russia and China are um, just flat out overrated. The are good at propaganda I’ll give them that but the whole communist way of thinking crushes thought and those two counties have been doing it for a long time now.
It doesn’t matter who we fight we win.
The bigger the population the bigger the humanitarian crisis we create.
A war in many cases for us isn’t worth the catastrophe to follow unless we literally do the work for them.
Everyone relies to much on us. Also, the counties that don’t eat meat are soft and really act like pussies.
Ukraine has knocked out power in Russia to 600,000 people today.
Russia and China are um, just flat out overrated. The are good at propaganda I’ll give them that but the whole communist way of thinking crushes thought and those two counties have been doing it for a long time now.
It doesn’t matter who we fight we win.
The bigger the population the bigger the humanitarian crisis we create.
A war in many cases for us isn’t worth the catastrophe to follow unless we literally do the work for them.
Everyone relies to much on us. Also, the counties that don’t eat meat are soft and really act like pussies.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:44 am to jizzle6609
I believe it was a Russia General that defected years ago that said it was believed in the Kremlin that America would be able to pull the rabbit out of the hat if they engaged us militarily. That’s why the first strike mentality never really took hold.
The fact is we do indeed have a lot of hats and a lot of rabbits.
The fact is we do indeed have a lot of hats and a lot of rabbits.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:48 am to jizzle6609
Just to play devils advocate a little bit to keep the conversation going….
1) The Oreschnik hypersonic missile is better than anything in the US arsenal, correct?
2) The Russians have weathered the sanctions and the Ukraine war quite well, it seems to me. Their army has more soldiers now than at the beginning of the war and they are combat hardened.
3) The Iranian/Venezuelan scenarios have yet to play out….how can you be so certain of success?
Afghanistan? Iraq? Libya?
Yemen?
None of those were successful in the final analysis, no?
1) The Oreschnik hypersonic missile is better than anything in the US arsenal, correct?
2) The Russians have weathered the sanctions and the Ukraine war quite well, it seems to me. Their army has more soldiers now than at the beginning of the war and they are combat hardened.
3) The Iranian/Venezuelan scenarios have yet to play out….how can you be so certain of success?
Afghanistan? Iraq? Libya?
Yemen?
None of those were successful in the final analysis, no?
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:51 am to Geekboy
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I believe it was a Russia General that defected years ago that said it was believed in the Kremlin that America would be able to pull the rabbit out of the hat if they engaged us militarily. That’s why the first strike mentality never really took hold.
If we sent everything we had and really moved pieces around and called up reservists the combined world couldn’t stop us.
It’s not even about killing anyone either. We not only are more trained with better soldiers who want to live, we control who gets what from the ocean
When you control countries oil and rice shipments your national debt they own doesn’t look so bad anymore. .
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 5:53 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:56 am to czechtiger
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how can you be so certain of success?
The fact no Americans were killed in this raid is mind boggling.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:01 am to czechtiger
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The Oreschnik hypersonic missile is better than anything in the US arsenal, correct?
Sure.
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The Russians have weathered the sanctions and the Ukraine war quite well, it seems to me. Their army has more soldiers now than at the beginning of the war and they are combat hardened.
Combat hardened good or bad in your eyes?
When the war ends, what’s the Russian soldier going home to?
Does he even know? If I’m Russian and my country has the biggest missile and a growing military why am I working in a decade to finish Ukraine? On top of that, how are we taking this long to beat a country we literally starved to death one time? This should be a cake walk.
What’s success mean? How are you qualifying success?
When I look at war I simply look at totals of what the militaries actually did, not whether the politicians are satisified with who got paid what.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:06 am to Geekboy
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quote:how can you be so certain of success? The fact no Americans were killed in this raid is mind boggling.
This and this alone.
It defies reality almost. In the modern day world this is almost unimaginable. The other countries won’t say it because you can’t show weakness ever but they know.
Doing this mission to the Roman empire wouldve been as lethal as what we just did and actually a little more so since the mission to Venezuela is completed.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 6:52 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:07 am to jizzle6609
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Ukraine has knocked out power in Russia to 600,000 people today.
Holy NAFO misinfo. I assume you're referring to
Belgorod border town, allegedly had no power for a day or some areas. Source- reddit war sub with kid living in Belgorod. Allegedly, but he posts there regularly and drops actual footage.
Meanwhile Klitchko told Ukrainains to flee Kiev. You're badly misnformed and huffing some bad shite.
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:10 am to AFstAF
I really don’t care which way the outage is. I wouldn’t care if both entire countries were both out. That might make it more fun actually.
We shouldnt be involved in this. This is their history. Let them figure it out.
Either way we would destroy them if we wanted to without question.
We shouldnt be involved in this. This is their history. Let them figure it out.
Either way we would destroy them if we wanted to without question.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:13 am to jizzle6609
Good point! Add in the fact we didn't loose one aircraft or helicopter is remarkable. I don't think this type of mission has ever been pulled off with no loss of life or equipment. Damn proud to be an American 
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:14 am to jizzle6609
I sat without power for 2 week after Irma. In a big city of a lot more than 500k people. I know people who volunteered after in hurricane Ian, and there was no power for over a month in many areas.
Anyone can knock out power to anyone.
Anyone can knock out power to anyone.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:32 am to czechtiger
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Just to play devils advocate a little bit to keep the conversation going…. 1) The Oreschnik hypersonic missile is better than anything in the US arsenal, correct? 2) The Russians have weathered the sanctions and the Ukraine war quite well, it seems to me. Their army has more soldiers now than at the beginning of the war and they are combat hardened. 3) The Iranian/Venezuelan scenarios have yet to play out….how can you be so certain of success? Afghanistan? Iraq? Libya? Yemen? None of those were successful in the final analysis, no?
We have 20 years worth of battle hardened soldiers all while we are studying Russian and Ukrainian tactics. There have never been more cameras on a battlefield than there are right now.
As far as weapons, do you honestly think we touched any of our top secret weaponry against Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria or Venezuela? We slipped in a lot of aircraft to Venezuela and took their President, without losing a single person or asset. Let that sink in. That means they had no way of seeing us, locking in to us with their radar or everyone that could do that was dead.
We or may not have hypersonic missiles but whose to say that we deem that technology as old and have something far more lethal? If you’re going to fight China and/or Russia, you don’t do it fully reliant on kinetic arms. You have to starve them and make it very hard for them to move the numbers of men, food and weapons throughout that large country. What would knocking out all their dams look like for them?
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:53 am to Da Sheik
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Damn proud to be an American
Not trying to brag but we are quite literally the best country ever.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 6:54 am to AFstAF
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Anyone can knock out power to anyone.
Bingo. You plan to lose it, you expect this happens.
It’s not that they take it out it’s how fast can you get it back on.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:00 am to wryder1
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We have 20 years worth of battle hardened soldiers all while we are studying Russian and Ukrainian tactics. There have never b
We are WAR
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:16 am to czechtiger
Ok, I'll pay along for little while, although I'm not the caliber of SFP. 
Poster above made a comment I agree with in that, we don't know the capabilities of the US Military. We're only told a little to keep enemies guessing. So my reply to #1 is, we don't know if the Russian hypersonic missile is better than anything the US has, hell, maybe to the US it's obsolete and we have lasers in space or some shite?
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If the Russian military is larger now, hardened, more experienced, and capable of bypassing the sanctions....Why haven't they won this little war already and ended it? Why the continual inches of territory gained or lost, continuous slog?...........
In a press conference right after the Maduro extraction a reporter asked Trump about regime change and how the US has a poor record of rebuilding or changing a countries status quo. Trump interrupted him at the beginning and said that HE didn't have a poor record of regime change and didn't intend to have one.......
The Iranian people are revolting against their government currently, and I'm convinced a part of it is because of the Venezuelan raid and Trump saying the US would intervene if a slaughter begins. I'm not going to argue with anyone about this as we don't know what will really happen, but just the fact that Trump said it, and he's a President of action, has altered how governments are reacting now than in the past.
he past. Maybe the success of the mission has already occurred with Maduro being in jail waiting for trial in NY? Venezuela so far seems to be cooperating, and I don't think it's exactly apples to apples when comparing past US interventions on other continents than in the western hemisphere, our turf. Successful or not, the Venezuelan raid has shook up the world, an maybe that is the success?.........
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1) The Oreschnik hypersonic missile is better than anything in the US arsenal, correct?
Poster above made a comment I agree with in that, we don't know the capabilities of the US Military. We're only told a little to keep enemies guessing. So my reply to #1 is, we don't know if the Russian hypersonic missile is better than anything the US has, hell, maybe to the US it's obsolete and we have lasers in space or some shite?
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2) The Russians have weathered the sanctions and the Ukraine war quite well, it seems to me. Their army has more soldiers now than at the beginning of the war and they are combat hardened.
If the Russian military is larger now, hardened, more experienced, and capable of bypassing the sanctions....Why haven't they won this little war already and ended it? Why the continual inches of territory gained or lost, continuous slog?...........
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3) The Iranian/Venezuelan scenarios have yet to play out….how can you be so certain of success?
Afghanistan? Iraq? Libya?
In a press conference right after the Maduro extraction a reporter asked Trump about regime change and how the US has a poor record of rebuilding or changing a countries status quo. Trump interrupted him at the beginning and said that HE didn't have a poor record of regime change and didn't intend to have one.......
The Iranian people are revolting against their government currently, and I'm convinced a part of it is because of the Venezuelan raid and Trump saying the US would intervene if a slaughter begins. I'm not going to argue with anyone about this as we don't know what will really happen, but just the fact that Trump said it, and he's a President of action, has altered how governments are reacting now than in the past.
he past. Maybe the success of the mission has already occurred with Maduro being in jail waiting for trial in NY? Venezuela so far seems to be cooperating, and I don't think it's exactly apples to apples when comparing past US interventions on other continents than in the western hemisphere, our turf. Successful or not, the Venezuelan raid has shook up the world, an maybe that is the success?.........
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:21 am to jizzle6609
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We have 20 years worth of battle hardened soldiers
No, we don't.
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We are WAR
This is US military. I personally knew this little pencil neck. Everyone who dealt with him personally hated this little frick. He can't do 10 push ups, he never owned or had interest in guns or fire related. Major shitlib. He majored in biology and never had a job. He's a staunch zionist inbred shite with most of the family looking like the hills have eyes, basically hasidim. In his late 20s he joined a US army so he can get a paycheck and a place to live. This is what US army is comprised of. That and DEI and it will take a generation to actually do something about rooting this rot out.
I'm not talking about elite units, but about the majority that comprises a US army. Grifters who are there for a paycheck and security.
Like Tim Waltz who reached all those ranks and accolades collecting a paycheck only to abandon his troops when it's time to fight.
You have no fricking idea what a termite rot US military has or how it would perform in mass troop deployment, which is why Trump will avoid it at all costs. I hope he realizes that and Hegseth has politely indicated that to him.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 7:24 am
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:25 am to jizzle6609
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your national debt they own doesn’t look so bad anymore. .
That’s still a minority of debt (most of it is owned by us)
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