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Ending the drugs was a factor, but the major factor was CHINA (and IRAN) gaining access

Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:00 am
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
9686 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:00 am
If we need to perform a surgical extraction to prevent all of these from happening without any sort of long term war then it’s a 10/10 win.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:01 am to
It helps that the populace didn't vote for him and didn't want him there. Outside of the ones making money from the drugs and military salaries of course.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:06 am to
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CHINA (and IRAN) gaining access


For sure. Venezuela is a proxy for Russia and China to destabilize the US with drugs like Iran uses Syria and others as their proxy on Israel.

Same game. Different levers. And I have no doubt if left unchecked, China would have established a military presence in Venezuela.

Now we have the levers: Venezuela oil, needed by Iran, Russia, and maybe China.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 9:09 am
Posted by The Hurricane
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Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:08 am to
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:14 am to
Don't forget russia's investments. Old news but still relevant.

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Venezuela is entirely reliant upon massive investment from Russia and China.
In fact China owns 49% of Venezuela’s state run PDVSA energy production. A collateral system where Beijing takes oil as payment for prior loans the Maduro regime cannot pay back.

China and Russia are already leveraged to the gills in Venezuela and hold 49% of Citgo as collateral for loans outstanding. China and Russia now need to loan more, directly.
However, China cannot engage in economic commerce with Venezuela or they risk losing access to the U.S. banking system. Therefore all current Chinese aid to Maduro comes in the form of IOUs.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2018/10/24/big-bear-and-big-panda-just-joined-the-discussion-vice-president-mike-pence-reveals-central-american-invasion-horde-is-financed-by-venezuela/

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US $5bn for oil industry

Amongst the announcements was a new US $5 billion loan to boost Venezuela’s oil industry, which has suffered from falling production, international court action, and a wide reaching anti-corruption probe.
The new loan reaffirms China as Venezuela’s main creditor and follows on the heels of a previous pledge of financial assistance by the Chinese Development Bank in July.

Despite rumours of a possible renegotiation of the terms of previous loans – which amount to an outstanding US $20bn of around $60bn received since 2008 – no official announcements have been made as of yet.

As part of the agreements, Venezuela’s state-run oil firm PDVSA will cede 9.9 percent of its shares in the mixed Venezuelan-Chinese oil firm SINOVENSA to the Chinese state-owned National Petroleum Consortium (CNPC), which previously owned 40 percent of the company. SINOVENSA produces 130,000 barrels of oil a day in the Orinoco Oil Belt.

https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/14056
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 9:17 am
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