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Do you treat female employees different?

Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:52 pm
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15883 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:52 pm
I’m not talking about admins but engineers, lawyers, accountants, etc. do you chastise them as idiots or cater to their mistakes when they make them? Do you present things to them for lessons learned manners in a harsh way or coddled way?

I’m curious. We have a young lady who is a sharp girl, but very inexperienced. OT 5 but Industry 10. I feel guys are letting her get away with murder basically and being very kind vs if this was a dude who’d they’d be coming to me to shite can.

How do you treat these?
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
19441 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:53 pm to
Yes. They’re more likely to sue and/or cause problems/drama
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
19413 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:54 pm to
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Posted by BabyTac


Posted by Sunnyvale
Member since Feb 2024
2517 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:55 pm to
Ive never seen anyone talk to a woman, the way people have spoke to Men in my field.
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3671 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:56 pm to
I’m an engineering manager you can’t show bias. I treat them all the same
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11199 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:56 pm to
Oh luck, more fantasy role play from baby frick
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297732 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:57 pm to
Sore subject.

I had to hire females I knew could not do the job. And only one ever could, and she only lasted a few months.

If they applied, our Woke HR pretty much forced us to hire them, or any "minority."

Most would like and say they could handle the physical requirements, and all the years I worked there, only one could actually do it. The rest ended up doing office shite all the time, which was not fair to the guys who worked there.

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120339 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:58 pm to
Of course. There is "guy" talk and then there is "PC talk".
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
59007 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:58 pm to
Treat her like the professional she is.

There is no reason to coddle. You and your employees need to grow a pair.

And I say this as having just got off the phone with my boss that told me to stop being so hard on one of the male employees
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 2:03 pm
Posted by WRU
Member since Dec 2025
17 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:04 pm to
I try to avoid them at all costs so I don't end up in HR on a false accusation.
Most guys I work with feel the same way.
Women only have themselves to blame.
#METOO and Woke Insanity has consequences.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89104 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:06 pm to
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I had to hire females I knew could not do the job. And only one ever could, and she only lasted a few months.



I work with a guy that had the first USAF female F-15 candidate as a student, she was very much a Rosa Parks type set up, she was pretty bad, couldn't 3D conceptualize, put multiple jets in the mix and she lost it, easily flustered, he kept flunking her(long after a male student would have washed out,) they kept telling him to give her more instruction, finally there was a hearing to determine her fate, the AF got Bud Day, a pretty famous man in his own right, to represent her, they ended up letting her go to transports, after the hearing Bud asked my friend what would it have taken to get her through tjhe course, my friend told him that there wasn't enough JP-4 in the AF to make her into an F-15 pilot, he ran into her later in her career and she thanked him for being such a hard arse and that going to the F-15 was not her idea
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297732 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:12 pm to
Our work was 80% administrative anyway, with 20% handling ship lines, plowing snow, ect.

The ship lines were too much for women and they kept being forced on us by recruitment and HR. In fact, if no female or ethnic minority applied they would trash the recruitment and start from scratch.

So the guys had to go out in 10 degree weather, on a catwalk 50' above the water helping ships dock, while the women got out of it because after hire, decided it was too difficult. And there was nothing you could to about it.

Then the women wonder why they were treated like "second class citizens." Because they were.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89104 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

So the guys had to go out in 10 degree weather, on a catwalk 50' above the water helping ships dock, while the women got out of it because after hire, decided it was too difficult. And there was nothing you could to about it.

Then the women wonder why they were treated like "second class citizens." Because they were.



shite's getting old, is there a standard or not?
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38384 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:15 pm to
Shutup
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38417 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:16 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 2:17 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297732 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:17 pm to
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shite's getting old, is there a standard or not?


It was the beginning of the end for me.

I had a guy who was a former school teacher who I had to hire a female over because HR said he didnt have enough "customer service experience." A fricking school teacher..

The lady lasted 7 months and moved on, couldnt handle the work. HR says once theyre hired, nothing we can do.
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5141 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

I feel guys are letting her get away with murder basically and being very kind vs if this was a dude who’d they’d be coming to me to shite can.

This is my experience normally. I used to work with a woman who was a minority in the industry we were in and she felt like she had to try too hard instead of just doing her job. This led to her being a very poor performer who did not have the respect of anyone in the office. She then somehow kept getting promoted over qualified people. She then became an expert in office cliche which made it even worse.

I personally don't care of anyone's gender or race. All I care about is if you can do your job and not put other work on others unnecessarily.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15742 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:31 pm to
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do you chastise them as idiots or cater to their mistakes when they make them?

If you work in any environment, why would you chastise anyone as an idiot?

Either you thought well enough to hire them or the person you replaced did. If there are coworkers treating them well, those are potential allies to the underperforming worker.

Just give them accurate feedback, document it, hear them out on their explanation, document it, then find out if they learned or if they are not capable of applying what they learned.

Start looking for a replacement from outside or within. Then do the responsible thing and replace them with a potential upgrade. Hire smart people. They’ll figure it out.

Chastising people as if they are idiots is just an a-hole thing to do. No one respects that. You should definitely start hiring people smarter than you - if your ego allows you to.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15883 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

you work in any environment, why would you chastise anyone as an idiot?


Let’s face it. Guys talk to other guys. I was an apprentice in my life and got called an idiot, harsh words, etc. that was part of growing up to me. Eventually you get better and earn respect then they’re rooting for you.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100731 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:46 pm to
I treat them like the fellow baseball players on our company city league team

Give them a firm pat on the rear and say “go get em champ”
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