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Upgrading my server rack from 15u to 42u. Suggestions appreciated.

Posted on 12/28/25 at 5:08 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 5:08 pm
The 15u was cute and all but I need something with way more space and cooling built in.

Looking to hear what others are using and what works and doesn't work.

I lost a 14t drive during a recent power outage so adding a NAS is also on the to-do list.
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:31 pm to
I'm assuming this is in a closet or enclosed space of some sort with limited ventilation? If you shove 42u into an unused bedroom closet where the home run is, you'll probably need to plan for more ventilation and duct work. I had the equivalent to a 15U in a spare bedroom closet that I left the door open on (and it was very little comparative compute, mostly networking, NAS and UPS) and the closet was easily 7 degrees warmer than the bathroom outside the open door.

I used (was told to use, more properly) Compaq DL380s for storage in my first data center, and multiple generations are pretty cheap on eBay, but the price of the SAS drives is astronomical. I know you'll probably use a homebrew NAS in a rackmount enclosure, which I have zero advice on.

Relying on a single 14TB drive that wasn't at least mirrored? I thought I knew ye!

In all honesty, once I moved to a 5 bay non rackmount NAS, my cheapness became an advantage. I start with 2-3 drives, add one more when the price on the next tier drops, replace one of the smaller ones every two years when it fails, and it's like a slow trickle, but it keeps me safe. The current storage pool I started with was with 4TB drives a decade ago. As the drives fail, a 4TB gets replaced with a 6, a year later, the next 4TB that fails gets replaced with an 8 that cost as much as the 6, etc. I have two 9.1, two 12.7, and one 10.9, with one of the 12.7s as a hot spare. I used to use Western Digital (Red Pro) exclusively, but have started to inject the Seagate equivalent into the mix. In looking at the BackBlaze drive reports, it seemed a wise strategy. One thing I noticed that when I bought drives with nearly sequential serial numbers (at the same time), if one failed, the next one was going no more than 45-60 days later.

I would obviously investigate any NAS OS to make sure it integrates with BackBlaze or similar for offsite backup. I know if there's a flood, fire or tornado, the guns and the NAS and getting grabbed first, but it's so cheap. Even to get a drive shipped to you from BB for restoration, it's maybe $200.
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 8:33 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 2:33 am to
quote:

Relying on a single 14TB drive that wasn't at least mirrored? I thought I knew ye!


Actually 3 14t drives and 2 16t drives.

Calculated risk with the WD easy shares I just wasn't prepared for one to fail so quickly. They're on a battery backup and whole home surge protector but we got hammered with multiple outages last week and well...

Looks like I'm going to need to RAID them and do this the right way this time.

Sucks but a good excuse to get better movie rips of everything I lost.

This is the laundry room closet and it's pretty big but terrible ventilation and my only option is to cut a hole in the wall that leads to the garage so I'm looking at a cage with fans.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 6:02 am to
Why get big when small rack do trick

This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 6:46 am
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:35 am to
I just have a couple NUCs and a Jetson tucked deep back inside a high display niche with some networking gear and a couple 8-port switches. Never seen or heard. No need to tidy up either.

Obviously no spinning disks. Not a collector.



Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 2:02 pm to
I'm wondering about moving to solid state myself. Wish it would come down in price
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 3:42 pm to
It's just not worth it. Not only are the drives significantly more expensive, but the hardware needed to support the higher bandwidth is too
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 4:04 pm to
Storage seems to be the hardest thing to manage. I only have 5.25 TB split between 3x NVME and 1x SATA SSD.

Subscriptions are cheaper than disks but maybe less quality and my movies didn’t work well on Christmas despite my live and series being perfect.
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:47 pm to
Storage is stupid simple to manage
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 6:57 am to
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Storage is stupid simple to manage


Until you want to keep heat, noise, and size to a minimum.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 7:49 am to
100TBs in 2u space with 48 cores/64 threads running at max 70w
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 3:15 pm to
I got this rack simply because it fit under my stairs and fit what I needed (middle Atlantic is the brand). Its more of a AV rack then network but I was able to fit everything I need with some trail and error. Everything is ran to that room and I have a small useless AC duct in there so I leave the door open. It only gets to the high 80s low 90s but the fans are loud and it’s hot when I sit at my computer in there. I bought the rack used off eBay. 2U fans blowing in at the bottom and 2U fans blowing out at the top. There is a 1U fan on top of the Denon amp that blows out. First time building a rack, it was fun but a lot of learning and trial and error. I’m still going to change it up a bit.








This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 3:17 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 3:19 pm to
i've seen your server pics baw

and yes i'm jealous
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:49 am to
You need to grab a Cisco 3850-12X48U while they're still cheap as dirt to throw in the new rack, when you get it.

36x 1gb POE+ ports, 12x mgig 1/2.5/5/10gb POE+ ports, with an expansion slot for up to 8x 10gb SFP+ ports (hell, you can even get a 2x 40gb SFP+ module for it ). I got mine with a 2x 1gb, 2x 10gb SFP+ module for $100
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 9:50 am
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:50 am to
quote:

100TBs in 2u space with 48 cores/64 threads running at max 70w


Dude, you just posted a switch at uses 191W at 0% traffic and 0% PoE.
Posted by TAMU-93
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:29 pm to
What's your plan for this 42U server rack? In your other thread, you're looking at a desktop NAS. As Blue pointed out, you can fit a lot of storage and compute in a 2U server. Maybe it's a good time to consolidate rather than expand.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Dude, you just posted a switch at uses 191W at 0% traffic and 0% PoE.



Yea, which has absolutely zero to do with the storage.

Edit: Load w/o POE is 162w. Mine w/ POE devices is running 202w
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 1:06 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:20 pm to
quote:


What's your plan for this 42U server rack? In your other thread, you're looking at a desktop NAS. As Blue pointed out, you can fit a lot of storage and compute in a 2U server. Maybe it's a good time to consolidate rather than expand.


i currently have a 24port managed switch, rackmount ups, reolink nvr, dell poweredge, 5 external hdds, hue hub, keyboard/monitor, laser printer and planning to add a 4 bay NAS.

it gets pretty warm in there and i have no fan/circulation currently which is an attractive feature of most larger cabinets.

its possible i can fit everything in my existing one and move the printer to a different location but i liked the idea of getting everything as far off the floor as possible. i'm also considering wall-mounting the 15u.

i guess room for growth and ventilation are my 2 biggest objectives.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19185 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:31 pm to
Do you have a door on the back of your current rack? If so, just take it off

Why not incorporate your NAS into the poweredge server? It should have plenty of HDD slots, no?
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