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Football Digest: The NFL's best rookie quarterback is an afterthought
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/22/25 at 12:50 pm
Gemini summary (I left in the misspellings)
quote:
This video analyzes why Tyler Shuck of the New Orleans Saints is currently one of the most underrated rookie quarterbacks in the NFL, focusing on his high football IQ, poise under pressure, and how Offensive Coordinator Kellen Moore has tailored the system to his strengths.
Key Video Highlights
[00:31] - Reading Complex Coverages: The analysis breaks down Shuck's ability to decipher "simulated pressure" looks. He correctly identifies a cover-zero blitz and quickly strikes a void in the defense for a touchdown against a division rival.
[02:02] - Record-Breaking Efficiency: Shuck currently holds a borderline top-10 completion percentage and has secured more wins than any other rookie quarterback this season.
[02:16] - Pocket Awareness & Mobility: A highlight shows Shuck escaping pressure from multiple defenders to scramble for a 13-yard touchdown, demonstrating elite pocket awareness and athleticism.
[03:40] - Poise and Progressions: In a play against "quarters poach" coverage, Shuck moves through three different reads. Rather than panicking under pressure, he shows the maturity to bail out or check down rather than forcing a turnover.
[06:56] - Offensive Tempo: The Saints operate at the second-highest offensive tempo in the league. This "up-tempo" style helps Shuck by forcing defenses into predictable, "vanilla" looks, which mirrors the no-huddle systems he ran in college.
[08:19] - Chemistry with Chris Olave: The video details how Shuck and Olave use "choice routes" to exploit specific defensive zones. Their growing cohesion allows Shuck to anticipate exactly where Olave will stop his route [09:16].
[10:28] - High IQ Checkdowns: Shuck is praised for his ability to reset and rotate back to his front side when a primary deep route is covered, prioritizing ball security over risky "hero" throws.
[12:02] - Deep Ball Velocity: While the offense focuses on intermediate routes, Shuck proves he can still challenge elite cornerbacks like JC Horn by delivering high-velocity deep balls when he identifies a lack of safety help.
Summary: The video concludes that while Shuck still makes occasional rookie mistakes [11:15], his processing speed and the synergy between his skill set and Kellen Moore’s scheme make him a legitimate candidate for the future of the Saints franchise.
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Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
This may be one of the better OP breakdowns Ive seen in awhile 
Embedded video, good summary, good title
Video is also good btw
Embedded video, good summary, good title
Video is also good btw
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
That was well done.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
But Towne still says there were better players on the board
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm ready to buy his jersey, if it's on sale.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 1:44 pm to Mushroom1968
quote:
This may be one of the better OP breakdowns Ive seen in awhile
Embedded video, good summary, good title
Thank you for commenting. I'm trying to normalize this as proper behavior because "blind embedding" has become a major problem
Posted on 12/22/25 at 2:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
I love how Gemini calls him Shuck
Posted on 12/22/25 at 2:14 pm to St Augustine
It was an interesting lesson that Gemini "listens' to YT videos when summarizing them. Legit illuminating
Posted on 12/22/25 at 2:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
As soon as Nike releases an authentic colour rush im in
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
Just watched this last night as well and I 100% agree with everything he was saying, including people acting stupid over those 2 viral clips (one during a college game with the weird underhanded throw that was picked and the combine one) saying he sucks because of them.
This is why despite him being older and me not thinking going QB in round 2 was a good decision, I came around on him very quickly when I actually went and watched videos (not just highlights or lowlights) of his games on YouTube.
You could immediately see a lot of things that you NEED to be successful in the NFL, and he was doing most of them well. He was definitely "pro ready" from the get go compared to the others (which makes sense with how long he was on college).
This is why I was extremely disappointed with going with Rattler to start the year, because you could see all the limitations that he was/is never likely to get over to become a legit QB. Even if Shough wasn't ready as far as knowing the playbook and whatnot, he isn't so soft-minded that it would have hurt his confidence, and he would be even further along by now (and we likely have 2-3 more wins).
This is why despite him being older and me not thinking going QB in round 2 was a good decision, I came around on him very quickly when I actually went and watched videos (not just highlights or lowlights) of his games on YouTube.
You could immediately see a lot of things that you NEED to be successful in the NFL, and he was doing most of them well. He was definitely "pro ready" from the get go compared to the others (which makes sense with how long he was on college).
This is why I was extremely disappointed with going with Rattler to start the year, because you could see all the limitations that he was/is never likely to get over to become a legit QB. Even if Shough wasn't ready as far as knowing the playbook and whatnot, he isn't so soft-minded that it would have hurt his confidence, and he would be even further along by now (and we likely have 2-3 more wins).
Posted on 12/22/25 at 3:28 pm to Proximo
quote:Better players at less important positions. There are certain positions that are at a premium, and FAAAAAAAAAAR above all is the QB.
But Towne still says there were better players on the board
Posted on 12/22/25 at 4:10 pm to bonethug0180
Spencer won the job I think.
Well he did. They started the right qb coming out of camp.
Well he did. They started the right qb coming out of camp.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 12/24/25 at 6:11 pm to goatmilker
Based on preseason, no. Shough was showing things in preseason that he clearly had more potential than Rattler.
Now I do agree with the argument that Rattler was more ready to run the offense, but he was never more capable than Shough at any point.
Sure Shough would have had struggles starting out, but he would have also learned and adjusted at an accelerated rate compared to sitting. He isn't some 22 year old that has a lot to learn still about playing QB itself, nor would he lose confidence. This is why I HATE the silly argument that playing him immediately would have set him back. It would have done the opposite.
So I do believe Moore truly thought someone that knew the offense better would make us more competitive than choosing the obviously more capable player, but I don't agree that it was the right call and time proved that out once Shough proved he knew the offense and Rattler showed his limitations far too often.
Now I do agree with the argument that Rattler was more ready to run the offense, but he was never more capable than Shough at any point.
Sure Shough would have had struggles starting out, but he would have also learned and adjusted at an accelerated rate compared to sitting. He isn't some 22 year old that has a lot to learn still about playing QB itself, nor would he lose confidence. This is why I HATE the silly argument that playing him immediately would have set him back. It would have done the opposite.
So I do believe Moore truly thought someone that knew the offense better would make us more competitive than choosing the obviously more capable player, but I don't agree that it was the right call and time proved that out once Shough proved he knew the offense and Rattler showed his limitations far too often.
Posted on 12/24/25 at 6:43 pm to bonethug0180
We'll never really know. I don't disagree with you, but we didn't get to see Shough early in regular season action so hindsight is 20/20. Rattler actually had brief flashes, too. This was Kellen Moore's first go at it anyway, albeit in a season with a terribly weak roster. Hopefully the upward trend continues for him as a head coach. I think it will.
My guess is we win at least 2 of the home games with Shough rather than Rattler, which puts us at 7-8 right now. But, who knows.
I'm excited to see Shough with a healthy backfield and offensive line. The line has come together well but we should still probably add 1-2 starter type guys. I would also like to find an additional weapon at WR, in the draft or free agency. I don't hate our weapons at all but Olave is more of a 1A/1B without another 1A/1B. Olave may be a WR2, but another WR2 elevates them both.
I'll save the Ted Talk on the defense for another day.
My guess is we win at least 2 of the home games with Shough rather than Rattler, which puts us at 7-8 right now. But, who knows.
I'm excited to see Shough with a healthy backfield and offensive line. The line has come together well but we should still probably add 1-2 starter type guys. I would also like to find an additional weapon at WR, in the draft or free agency. I don't hate our weapons at all but Olave is more of a 1A/1B without another 1A/1B. Olave may be a WR2, but another WR2 elevates them both.
I'll save the Ted Talk on the defense for another day.
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