Spinoff to make a point about immigration

I understand what you will argue. Try getting citizenship in Italy. England obviously is underwater

Ah just the guy I was looking for from the other thread

And I couldn’t disagree with you more that no one voted for “mass illegal immigration” as lotsa people yell to the roof tops that’s what they believe. We have people in congress saying so

Man you really let things happen while you are sleeping. Hillary is a great pull. Obama and the dreamers which I actually wasnt so opposed to. But, politically no one throws shite right in your face to get the end goal

Caravans wearing BIDEN t-shirts
Where’d those come from?

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No one voted for this and these people have been foisted upon us undemocratically. Same as in Europe

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It was done by the same people in both places.

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Nasty problems do not have clean solutions

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Nasty problems require cleaning solutions.

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m going to disagree with you there. Plenty of people voted for it and continue to vote for it. Check out pretty much any anti-ICE rally and listen to who in Congress (or the WH) is saying "we need immigration reform" to combat illegal immigration instead of saying "we just need to enforce existing laws." Those are people who are voting for it.

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No they are advocating and voting for a solution to the issue which is a much different matter.
The fact remains that there was no referendum on bringing 30MM illegals here.

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No they are advocating and voting for a solution to the issue which is a much different matter.

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Yes, and that solution is open borders. This is why there is such denial and outright resistance to curtailing use/abuse of aid programs by illegals (which are often incentives for them to come here) even to the point where some states are now enshrining such incentives into law.

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California becomes first state to offer health insurance to all undocumented immigrants

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The fact remains that there was no referendum on bringing 30MM illegals here.

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There doesn't need to be a "referendum," there just needs to be enough people in the right positions to not uphold the law. We spent the years under the Biden administration with that crew giving us a sterling example of what happens when you not only don't enforce immigration and border laws but...

-you prosecute border states who try to pick up your slack
-you create an app illegals can just show to border patrol agents and be given free access into the country
-you actually facilitate the dissemination of illegals around the country

Biden didn't run on allowing and facilitating a massive increase in illegal immigration, but it happened anyway due to his (and/or his handler) being unwilling to simply uphold the laws already in place.